Chen Tai 陳泰

RecordsRomance Wei Courtesy name 玄伯 Xuanbo진태현백陈泰

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OccupationRNGeneral · General Who Conquers the WestFactionWei
AppearsRNBiography inBook of Wei
BornR? UnverifiedNative placeYingchuan Commandery Xuchang County Unverified
DiedR260 UnverifiedPlace of death
ExistenceHistoricalMentionsR32

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Chen Tai, courtesy name Xuanbo, was the son of Chen Qun, Minister of Works of Wei. When his father died in the 4th year of Qinglong (236) he succeeded him, and after serving as Inspector of Bing Province he became Inspector of Yong Province at the beginning of Jiaping, and together with Guo Huai brought about the surrender of the Shu troops at Qushan. Records, Wei 22 §36 · 38–41

After Guo Huai's death he became General Who Conquers the West and Commander-in-Chief of the military affairs of Yong and Liang Provinces, and in the 2nd year of Zhengyuan (255) he rescued Wang Jing, Inspector of Yong Province, who had been heavily defeated by Jiang Wei and was trapped in the city of Didao. Later he returned to the court and rose to Left Deputy Director of the Imperial Secretariat; he died in the 1st year of Jingyuan (260) and was posthumously made Minister of Works. Records, Wei 22 §42–50 · 54 · 56Records, Wei 4 §57

In his assessment, Chen Shou, author of the Records, said of him that he was 'broad-minded and capable in affairs, concise and thorough, truly worthy of carrying on the family's work.' In the Romance he first appears in Chapter 107 and features in 5 of its 120 chapters, but his name appears in no chapter title. In Chapter 114, after Cao Mao's death, he tells Sima Zhao to behead Jia Chong. Records, Wei 22 §108Romance, Ch. 107 §9Romance, Ch. 114 §15–16

In the Records

Chen Tai, courtesy name Xuanbo, was the son of the Minister of Works Chen Qun. When Chen Qun died in the 4th year of Qinglong (236), Chen Tai succeeded him, and Emperor Ming, recalling Chen Qun's merit and virtue, divided his fief and enfeoffed one more of his sons as a full marquis. During the Qinglong era Chen Tai became Gentleman Cavalier Attendant. Records, Wei 22 §36 · 38

During the Zhengshi era he was transferred to General of the Roving Strike and became Inspector of Bing Province, was given the additional title of General Who Spreads Awe, and became, with Imperial Credentials, General of the Household Protecting the Xiongnu. He pacified and won over the non-Han peoples and was greatly respected for both his authority and his kindness. When nobles of the capital entrusted him with treasures, wanting to buy slaves through him, Chen Tai hung them all on the wall without breaking their seals, and when he was summoned to become a member of the Imperial Secretariat he returned every one of them. Records, Wei 22 §38

In the 1st month of the 1st year of Jiaping (249), when Sima Xuanwang (Sima Yi) had the General-in-Chief Cao Shuang dismissed, Chen Tai, then a member of the Imperial Secretariat, together with the Palace Attendant Xu Yun, persuaded Cao Shuang to admit his guilt without delay. Cao Shuang sent the two of them to Sima Xuanwang to beg pardon for his offenses and ask for death. Records, Wei 4 §28Records, Wei 9 §85

At the beginning of Jiaping he replaced Guo Huai as Inspector of Yong Province and was given the additional title of General Who Displays Might. When Jiang Wei of Shu built two forts at Qushan and had Gou An, Li Xin and others hold them, Chen Tai said that the Qu forts were far from Shu and would need grain carried to them, and that the Qiang, suffering under Jiang Wei's labor levies, would not follow him, so if they surrounded the forts they could take them without staining their blades with blood. Guo Huai followed this plan and had Chen Tai lead Xu Zhi, Deng Ai and others to surround the forts, and Chen Tai cut off their supply route and the water outside the forts. Gou An and the others gathered snow to hold out from day to day. Records, Wei 22 §38–40

When Jiang Wei came out to Mount Niutou to relieve them, Chen Tai said that to subdue the enemy without fighting was what the art of war prized most, and ordered the armies only to hold their fortifications. He then sent word to Guo Huai that if he himself crossed the Bai River and moved east along it while Guo Huai went to Mount Niutou and cut off the line of retreat, they could capture even Jiang Wei. When Guo Huai advanced to the Tao River, Jiang Wei fled in fear, and Gou An and the others, left isolated, all surrendered. The Biography of Guo Huai records this as an achievement of the 1st year of Jiaping, accomplished by Guo Huai together with Chen Tai, Inspector of Yong Province, through their combined plans. Records, Wei 22 §40–41Records, Wei 26 §77

According to the Biography of Jiang Wei, when Jiang Wei besieged Nan'an in the 16th year of Yanxi of Shu (253), Chen Tai, Inspector of Yong Province, came as far as Luomen to lift the siege, and Jiang Wei withdrew as his provisions ran out. After Guo Huai's death Chen Tai became General Who Conquers the West, with the Credentials, and Commander-in-Chief of the military affairs of Yong and Liang Provinces. Records, Shu 14 §36Records, Wei 22 §42Records, Wei 26 §78

When Wang Jing, Inspector of Yong Province, said that Jiang Wei and Xiahou Ba would come out by three routes and asked to send the army out in divisions, Chen Tai replied that the enemy could not come by three routes and that a military force should avoid being divided, and told him to advance only after learning where the enemy was heading and after the forces of east and west had joined. In the 8th month of the 2nd year of Zhengyuan (255), when Jiang Wei headed for Didao with tens of thousands of men, Chen Tai ordered Wang Jing to stay at Didao and wait for the main army, and himself advanced to Chencang. But Wang Jing, after faring badly at Guguan, crossed the Tao River on his own initiative and was heavily defeated by Jiang Wei, and with only some ten thousand men he went back to defend the city of Didao. Records, Wei 22 §42–43Records, Wei 4 §57

When Chen Tai encamped at Shanggui, Deng Ai, Hu Fen and Wang Bi arrived. Deng Ai and the others said that an enemy riding a victory could not be withstood, and proposed dividing the army to hold the strategic points and waiting for the enemy to tire before going to the rescue. Chen Tai countered that Jiang Wei was being worn down below a high-walled city and that his isolated army could not keep up its grain supply, so this was the time to advance swiftly and defeat him; if they climbed to high ground and looked down on the nape of his neck, he would flee without a fight. Records, Wei 22 §44–48

Chen Tai crossed the Gaocheng Ridge and advanced in secret, reaching the high mountains southeast of Didao by night, where he raised many beacon fires and sounded drums and horns, and the officers and men in the city, seeing the relief army, were all roused. Chen Tai pretended to take the southern road, and Jiang Wei laid an ambush for three days, but Chen Tai's army came out secretly to the south of it. When Jiang Wei charged along the mountain, Chen Tai met him in battle and drove him back, and when Chen Tai agreed with Wang Jing to head for Jiang Wei's line of retreat together, Jiang Wei fled and stopped at Zhongti. Wang Jing lamented that with less than ten days of food left, had relief come any later the whole city would have been slaughtered and an entire province lost. Records, Wei 22 §49–50Records, Shu 14 §37

The prevailing view at court was to wait for great armies to gather from all sides before attacking, but the General-in-Chief Sima Wenwang (Sima Zhao) said that the General Who Conquers the West's hasty rescue was the best plan. Chen Tai believed that every time something happened in one region, false rumors would unsettle the whole realm, so he reported to the throne rarely and briefly. Sima Wenwang said to Xun Yi, 'Xuanbo is calm, brave and decisive,' and said that saving a city on the verge of falling without asking for more troops was exactly what a commander-in-chief and a great general ought to do. Records, Wei 22 §52–53

Later he was summoned to become Right Deputy Director of the Imperial Secretariat in charge of selecting officials, with the additional titles of Palace Attendant and Grand Master of the Palace. When the Wu grand general Sun Jun came out toward the Huai and Si rivers, Chen Tai became General Who Guards the Army, with the Credentials, and Commander-in-Chief of the military affairs north of the Huai, and when Sun Jun withdrew he moved to Left Deputy Director. When Zhuge Dan rebelled at Shouchun and Sima Wenwang encamped at Qiutou, Chen Tai oversaw the Branch Secretariat. Sima Jingwang and Sima Wenwang were both close friends of Chen Tai. When Sima Wenwang asked Wu Gai how Chen Tai compared with his father, Wu Gai replied that in taking the moral transformation of the realm as his own responsibility he fell short of his father, but in achieving merit and accomplishing affairs he surpassed him. Records, Wei 22 §54–55

For his achievements over the years Chen Tai's fief was increased by 2,600 households. He died in the 1st year of Jingyuan (260), was posthumously made Minister of Works, and was given the posthumous name Marquis Mu. His son Chen Xun succeeded him but died without an heir, and his younger brother Chen Wen inherited the fief. In his assessment, Chen Shou said that Chen Tai was broad-minded and capable in affairs, concise and thorough, truly worthy of carrying on the family's work. Records, Wei 22 §55–56 · 108

In the Romance

In Chapter 107 of the Romance, when Sima Yi moves against Cao Shuang, Chen Tai goes to Cao Shuang together with the Palace Attendant Xu Yun and urges him to return to the city, saying that the Grand Tutor only wants to take away his military authority, and has him first hand over his seal to Sima Yi. In the same chapter, when Guo Huai is being pushed back by Xiahou Ba, Chen Tai leads troops in from behind and inflicts a heavy defeat on Xiahou Ba. Romance, Ch. 107 §9 · 16 · 19 · 33

In the autumn, in the 8th month, in the same chapter, Chen Tai, as a subordinate general of Guo Huai, Inspector of Yong Province, leads 50,000 men to surround the two forts at Qushan and cuts the grain route from Hanzhong. When Li Xin slips out of his fort, Chen Tai foresees that Jiang Wei will circle round by Mount Niutou to strike their rear, has Guo Huai occupy the Tao River, and goes to Mount Niutou himself. At Mount Niutou he engages Jiang Wei and is beaten in fewer than three bouts and falls back to the summit, but when Guo Huai cuts the grain route, he divides his army into five columns and pursues the retreating Jiang Wei. Romance, Ch. 107 §42–43 · 49–51 · 53

In Chapter 109, to break the troops of the Qiang king Midang, who had joined forces with Jiang Wei, he enters the Qiang camp claiming to surrender out of resentment against Guo Huai. Pretending to lead the Qiang troops in a raid on the Wei camp, he lures Ehe Shaoge into a pitfall, and together with Guo Huai captures Midang. Romance, Ch. 109 §16–18

In Chapter 110, after Wang Jing is defeated by Jiang Wei, Chen Tai, General Who Conquers the West, asks Deng Ai, who has arrived with troops, for a plan, and adopts his proposal to deploy troops at Xiangling, calling it 'a truly marvelous idea,' then hides soldiers carrying flags, drums and beacon fires in the high mountains and deep valleys southeast of Didao. In Chapter 111 he reports Deng Ai's merit to the Wei ruler Cao Mao and has him promoted to General Who Pacifies the West, and on hearing Deng Ai's five reasons why the Shu army will come out again, he is filled with admiration and the two become friends regardless of the difference in their ages. When Deng Ai goes to Mount Wucheng, Chen Tai attacks the Shu camp at Qishan and bars the way of the retreating Jiang Wei. Romance, Ch. 110 §39–41Romance, Ch. 111 §1–2 · 4 · 13 · 20

In Chapter 114, after Cao Mao's death, when Sima Zhao assembles the ministers, only Chen Tai, Deputy Director of the Imperial Secretariat, fails to come. When Sima Zhao sends Chen Tai's maternal uncle Xun Yi to summon him, Chen Tai weeps aloud, saying that people used to compare him to his uncle, but now he sees that his uncle is not his equal. He enters in mourning clothes and wails, and when Sima Zhao asks how the matter should be dealt with, he answers that only by beheading Jia Chong could they offer even a small apology to the realm, and says he knows of no lesser course. Romance, Ch. 114 §15–16

Where the Romance differs

Position in the Qushan campaign: In Chapter 107 of the Romance, Guo Huai is Inspector of Yong Province and Chen Tai is his subordinate general. In the Records, Chen Tai replaced Guo Huai as Inspector of Yong Province, and Guo Huai was General Who Conquers the West and Commander-in-Chief of the military affairs of Yong and Liang Provinces. Romance, Ch. 107 §42Records, Wei 22 §38Records, Wei 26 §77

The plan at Qushan: In Chapter 107 of the Romance, the plan to cut off the forts' water upstream is Guo Huai's, and Chen Tai fights Jiang Wei at Mount Niutou and is beaten in fewer than three bouts. In the Records, it was Chen Tai who proposed surrounding the forts and cutting off their supply route and the water outside them, and Guo Huai followed it; at Mount Niutou Chen Tai faced Jiang Wei but did not fight, instead having Guo Huai cut off the line of retreat so that Jiang Wei fled. Romance, Ch. 107 §43 · 51Records, Wei 22 §39–41

Xiahou Ba: In Chapter 107 of the Romance Chen Tai, together with Guo Huai, attacks Xiahou Ba and drives him to flee to Shu. The Biography of Chen Tai in the Records has no such episode, and the Biography of the Later Ruler says only that Xiahou Ba came over to surrender when Cao Shuang was executed. Romance, Ch. 107 §33Records, Wei 22 §37–56Records, Shu 3 §29

Battle with the Qiang: In Chapter 109 of the Romance Chen Tai lures the Qiang troops into a trap with a feigned surrender and captures Midang. The Biography of Chen Tai in the Records has no such episode. The Biography of Jiang Wei records that in the 16th year of Yanxi (253) Jiang Wei, besieging Nan'an, withdrew as his provisions ran out when Chen Tai came as far as Luomen. Romance, Ch. 109 §17–18Records, Wei 22 §37–56Records, Shu 14 §36

The plan for relieving Didao: In Chapter 110 of the Romance, Deng Ai proposes deploying troops at Xiangling, and Chen Tai follows it by hiding soldiers with flags and drums in the mountain valleys. In the Records, Deng Ai and the others proposed holding the strategic points and waiting, and Chen Tai rejected this, advanced, and raised beacon fires and sounded drums on the mountain by night. Romance, Ch. 110 §40Records, Wei 22 §44–49

Deng Ai's promotion: In Chapter 111 of the Romance, Chen Tai reports Deng Ai's merit and Deng Ai becomes General Who Pacifies the West. In the Annals of the Three Young Emperors in the Records, the court had Deng Ai, Colonel of the Changshui Cavalry, act as General Who Pacifies the West and join forces with Chen Tai, and the Biography of Deng Ai records that he was made General Who Pacifies the West after the siege of Didao was lifted. There is no mention of Chen Tai reporting his merit. Romance, Ch. 111 §1Records, Wei 4 §57Records, Wei 28 §63

The five reasons: In Chapter 111 of the Romance Deng Ai tells Chen Tai five reasons why the Shu army will come out again. In the Biography of Deng Ai in the Records, when most of those in the discussion said that Jiang Wei would not be able to come out again, Deng Ai gave five reasons, and Chen Tai's name does not appear. Romance, Ch. 111 §2Records, Wei 28 §63–64

Qishan and Duangu: In Chapter 111 of the Romance Chen Tai breaks the Shu camp at Qishan and bars the way of the fleeing Jiang Wei. The Biographies of Deng Ai and Jiang Wei in the Records name only Deng Ai as the one who defeated Jiang Wei at Duangu, and this battle does not appear in the Biography of Chen Tai. Romance, Ch. 111 §20Records, Wei 28 §65Records, Shu 14 §38Records, Wei 22 §37–56

Cao Mao's death: In Chapter 114 of the Romance Chen Tai enters in mourning clothes and says Jia Chong should be beheaded. Chen Shou's main text of the Biography of Chen Tai in the Records has no such episode and says only that he died in the 1st year of Jingyuan (260) and was posthumously made Minister of Works. Xun Yi, too, appears in the Biography of Chen Tai only as the person who heard Sima Wenwang's praise of Chen Tai, and there is no mention of his being Chen Tai's maternal uncle. Romance, Ch. 114 §15–16Records, Wei 22 §53 · 56

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Abilities

The Records score (Chen Shou’s Records of the Three Kingdoms, main text) is the baseline. Each ability compares how the Romance redrew the same person, and the evidence from both sources explains the difference.

LEASTRINTPOLCHAVIRADPSCHDIPDIS
Records (solid) vs Romance (dashed)
  • LEA8470−14
  • STR4545±0
  • INT8268−14
  • POL7038−32
  • CHA6645−21
  • VIR8288+6
  • ADP7050−20
  • SCH4535−10
  • DIP4555+10
  • DIS5252±0
Records · Romance scores and difference (Romance − Records · left = lowered by the Romance · right = raised)

Abilities shaped by the Romance — where it differs from the Records Differences of 10 or more

PoliticsR70N38Unverified −32

RAssessment: capable in affairs, concise and thorough; pacified the non-Han peoples in Bing ProvinceWei 22 §108Wei 22 §38Wei 22 §54

NNo direct record — estimated from his command in the Yong and Liang regionCh. 111 §1

CharismaR66N45Unverified −21

RHis authority and kindness toward the non-Han peoples were very great, and the officers and men in the city were rousedWei 22 §38Wei 22 §49

NNo direct record — estimated from his friendship with Deng Ai regardless of ageCh. 111 §4

AdaptabilityR70N50 −20

RSima Zhao: calm, brave and decisive; did not ask for more troopsWei 22 §53

NDid not back down before Sima Zhao, choosing righteousness over self-preservationCh. 114 §16

IntelligenceR82N68 −14

RThe Qushan plan, his reading of the situation at Didao, and deceiving Jiang Wei with a feint along the southern roadWei 22 §39Wei 22 §46Wei 22 §50

NForesaw Jiang Wei's raid by Mount Niutou and devised a feigned surrender, but misjudged that Jiang Wei would not come out againCh. 107 §49Ch. 109 §16Ch. 111 §2

ScholarshipR45UnverifiedN35Unverified −10

RNo direct record — estimated from the remark that he fell short of his father in refinementWei 22 §55

NNo direct record — estimatedCh. 114 §15

DiplomacyR45UnverifiedN55 +10

RNo direct record — estimated from the record of his keeping his reports to the throne briefWei 22 §53

NPersuaded Cao Shuang to hand over his seal, and feigned surrender to the QiangCh. 107 §9Ch. 107 §19Ch. 109 §17

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  • StrengthR45UnverifiedN45 ±0

    RNo direct record — estimated from the record of his engaging Jiang Wei in battleWei 22 §50

    NBeaten by Jiang Wei in fewer than three bouts and fled, but rode alone into the enemy camp firstCh. 107 §51Ch. 109 §18

  • VirtueR82N88 +6

    RReturned nobles' treasures without even breaking the seals; assessment: broad-mindedWei 22 §38Wei 22 §108

    NWept aloud over Cao Mao's murder and told Sima Zhao plainly to behead Jia ChongCh. 114 §15

  • DiscernmentR52N52 ±0

    RAs Right Deputy Director of the Imperial Secretariat he was in charge of selecting officialsWei 22 §54Wei 22 §44

    NReported Deng Ai's merit and acknowledged his judgment of terrainCh. 111 §1Ch. 111 §13

Records Romance Unverified No direct record; scored from their actions (evidence grade C)

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Allegiance history

  1. Wei · Records · Records vol. 22 「尚書右僕射陳泰」

Family

ParentsChen Qun Records
ChildrenChen Wen Unverified Records

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