Liao Li 廖立

RecordsRomance Shu Courtesy name 公淵 Gongyuan요립공연

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OccupationRNOfficial · Colonel of the ChangshuiFactionShu
AppearsRNBiography inBook of Shu
BornNative placeWuling Commandery Linyuan County
DiedPlace of deathRWenshan Commandery
ExistenceHistoricalMentionsR12

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Liao Li, courtesy name Gongyuan, was a native of Linyuan County in Wuling Commandery. When the First Sovereign, Liu Bei, also held the post of Governor of Jing Province, he was summoned as an Attendant Officer and became Administrator of Changsha before he was thirty. Zhuge Liang named Pang Tong and Liao Li to Sun Quan's envoy as the fine talents of the land of Chu. In the 20th year of Jian'an (215), when Lü Meng made a surprise attack, he escaped with only his life and returned to the First Sovereign, and after serving as Administrator of Ba Commandery and Palace Attendant, he became Colonel of the Changshui under the Later Sovereign, Liu Shan. Records, Shu 10 §33–34

Believing that he ought to rank second only to Zhuge Liang, he constantly harbored discontent, and in front of Li Shao, Clerk to the Chancellor, and Jiang Wan he criticized the First Sovereign, Guan Yu and many of the ministers. Zhuge Liang submitted a memorial deposing him to commoner status and moving him to Wenshan Commandery, and he ended his life there. Records, Shu 10 §35–39

Chen Shou, the author of the Records, said in his assessment that Peng Yang and Liao Li were promoted on the strength of their talent, but that the disaster they brought on themselves and the blame they incurred all came from themselves. In the Romance he appears once, in Chapter 104, recalled in the passage on Zhuge Liang's death; he appears in 1 of the 120 chapters, and there is no chapter whose title contains his name. Records, Shu 10 §74Romance, Ch. 104 §17–18

In the Records

Liao Li, courtesy name Gongyuan, was a native of Linyuan County in Wuling Commandery. When the First Sovereign, Liu Bei, also took up the post of Governor of Jing Province, he summoned Liao Li as an Attendant Officer and, before Liao Li was thirty, promoted him to Administrator of Changsha. Records, Shu 10 §33

When the First Sovereign entered Shu and Zhuge Liang was holding the territory of Jing Province, Sun Quan sent an envoy to Zhuge Liang to establish friendly relations and asked which of the scholars were the ones who shared in ordering the state with him. Zhuge Liang answered, 'Pang Tong and Liao Li are fine talents of Chu, men who will help raise up the great enterprise of the age.' In the 20th year of Jian'an (215), when Sun Quan sent Lü Meng to make a surprise attack on the three southern commanderies, Liao Li escaped with only his life and fled, returning to the First Sovereign of his own accord. Records, Shu 10 §33

Because the First Sovereign had long known and valued him, he did not reprimand him severely and made him Administrator of Ba Commandery. In the 24th year of Jian'an (219), when the First Sovereign became King of Hanzhong, he summoned Liao Li to be a Palace Attendant, and when the Later Sovereign, Liu Shan, succeeded to the throne, Liao Li was moved to Colonel of the Changshui. Records, Shu 10 §34

Liao Li considered that his talent and reputation ought to make him second only to Zhuge Liang, but instead he drifted through idle posts below Li Yan and others, and so he constantly harbored discontent. Later, when Li Shao, Clerk to the Chancellor, and Jiang Wan came to see him, Liao Li took them to task, saying that since the army was about to set out on a distant campaign they had better look carefully into the matter. In the past, he said, the First Sovereign had not taken Hanzhong but had gone to contend with the men of Wu for the three southern commanderies, in the end handing the three commanderies over and merely wearing out his officers and soldiers in vain; and after Hanzhong was lost, Xiahou Yuan and Zhang He had penetrated deep into Ba, and a whole province had nearly been lost. Records, Shu 10 §35–36

Liao Li went on to say that Guan Yu had died with not a single man left alive and Shangyong had collapsed, losing a whole region, because Guan Yu relied on his reputation for valor and handled the army without method, just as he pleased. Xiang Lang and Wen Gong, he said, were ordinary, vulgar men: Wen Gong had kept no order as Headquarters Officer, and Xiang Lang, who had once revered the Ma Liang brothers as sages, had now become Chief Clerk. Guo Yanchang, Gentleman of the Household, was a man who merely followed others, yet he had become a Palace Attendant; in an age of weakness it was wrong to entrust affairs to these three, and Wang Lian had exhausted the people with harsh exactions. Records, Shu 10 §36–37

When Li Shao and Jiang Wan reported his words in full to Zhuge Liang, Zhuge Liang submitted a memorial. It said that Liao Li, Colonel of the Changshui, exalted himself and passed reckless judgments on the officials, openly said that the state employed vulgar functionaries rather than the worthy, called the generals who commanded ten thousand men mere boys, slandered the late emperor and disparaged the ministers. When someone remarked that the state's troops were well trained and their ranks in good order, Liao Li raised his head, looked up at the roof and cried, 'What is that worth mentioning!' The memorial said that even one sheep that throws the flock into disorder does harm, so how much more Liao Li, who occupied a high position. Records, Shu 10 §38–39

Liao Li was thereupon deposed to commoner status and moved to Wenshan Commandery. He personally led his wife and children in farming to support himself, and on hearing that Zhuge Liang had died he shed tears and sighed, 'In the end I shall become a barbarian who folds his robe to the left!' Later, when the Army Supervisor Jiang Wei passed through Wenshan leading a detached force, he visited Liao Li and said that Liao Li's spirit had not declined and that he talked just as before. Liao Li died in the place of his exile, and his wife and children returned to Shu. Chen Shou's main text does not record the year of his death. Records, Shu 10 §39

In his assessment Chen Shou said that Peng Yang and Liao Li were promoted on the strength of their talent, and that Li Yan, Wei Yan, Yang Yi and Liu Yan were all likewise honored and valued, but that when one examines their conduct and the rules they kept, the disaster they brought on themselves and the blame they incurred all came from themselves. Records, Shu 10 §74

In the Romance

Chapter 104 of the Romance recalls Liao Li's story among the poems in memory of Zhuge Liang after his death. Liao Li, Colonel of the Changshui of Shu, considers that by his talent and reputation he should stand second only to Kongming, but he constantly resents his post as an idle one and never ceases his complaints and slanders. Kongming therefore deposes him to commoner status and moves him to live in Wenshan. On hearing that Kongming has died, Liao Li sheds tears and says, 'In the end I shall become a barbarian who folds his robe to the left!' The Romance goes on to record that Li Yan, too, weeps bitterly on hearing the news, falls ill and dies. Romance, Ch. 104 §17–18

Where the Romance differs

Reason for his dismissal: Chapter 104 of the Romance records only that Liao Li never ceased his complaints and slanders, saying that his post was an idle one, so that Kongming made him a commoner. In the Records, Liao Li criticized, in front of Li Shao, Clerk to the Chancellor, and Jiang Wan, the First Sovereign's choices over Hanzhong and the contest for the three commanderies, Guan Yu's generalship, and Xiang Lang, Wen Gong, Guo Yanchang and Wang Lian, and when the two reported this, Zhuge Liang submitted a memorial and deposed him. Romance, Ch. 104 §17–18Records, Shu 10 §35–39

Offices: Chapter 104 of the Romance records him only as Colonel of the Changshui. In the Records he rose from Attendant Officer to Administrator of Changsha, and after serving as Administrator of Ba Commandery and Palace Attendant he was moved to Colonel of the Changshui under the Later Sovereign. Romance, Ch. 104 §17Records, Shu 10 §33–34

The loss of Changsha: In the Records, in the 20th year of Jian'an (215), when Lü Meng made a surprise attack on the three southern commanderies, Liao Li escaped with only his life and returned to the First Sovereign, who did not reprimand him severely. The Romance contains nothing of this. Records, Shu 10 §33–34Romance, Ch. 104 §17

Zhuge Liang's estimation: In the Records, Zhuge Liang named Pang Tong and Liao Li to Sun Quan's envoy as the fine talents of the land of Chu. The Romance does not contain these words. Records, Shu 10 §33Romance, Ch. 104 §17

After his exile: Chapter 104 of the Romance ends with Liao Li's lament. In the Records he lived by farming with his wife and children, the Army Supervisor Jiang Wei visited him and said that his spirit had not declined, and he died in the place of his exile, after which his wife and children returned to Shu. Romance, Ch. 104 §18Records, Shu 10 §39

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Abilities

The Records score (Chen Shou’s Records of the Three Kingdoms, main text) is the baseline. Each ability compares how the Romance redrew the same person, and the evidence from both sources explains the difference.

LEASTRINTPOLCHAVIRADPSCHDIPDIS
Records (solid) vs Romance (dashed)
  • LEA3031+1
  • STR3131±0
  • INT6045−15
  • POL4238−4
  • CHA3535±0
  • VIR2528+3
  • ADP2022+2
  • SCH4538−7
  • DIP3533−2
  • DIS3033+3
Records · Romance scores and difference (Romance − Records · left = lowered by the Romance · right = raised)

Abilities shaped by the Romance — where it differs from the Records Differences of 10 or more

IntelligenceR60N45Unverified −15

RZhuge Liang ranked him with Pang Tong as a talent of Chu; assessment: promoted for his talentShu 10 §33Shu 10 §35Shu 10 §74

NNo direct record — estimated from the record of his pride in his talent and reputationCh. 104 §17

9 similar abilities — show evidence
  • LeadershipR30N31Unverified +1

    REscaped with only his life when Lü Meng made a surprise attack on the three commanderiesShu 10 §33

    NNo direct record — estimated from his post as a colonelCh. 104 §17

  • StrengthR31UnverifiedN31Unverified ±0

    RNo direct record — estimated from his being a civil officialShu 10 §33

    NNo direct record — estimated from his deedsCh. 104 §17

  • PoliticsR42UnverifiedN38Unverified −4

    RNo direct record — estimated from his career as Administrator of Changsha and of Ba CommanderyShu 10 §33Shu 10 §34

    NNo direct record — estimated from his deedsCh. 104 §17

  • CharismaR35N35Unverified ±0

    RPassed reckless judgments on the officials, and Zhuge Liang said he threw the flock into disorderShu 10 §38

    NNo direct record — estimated from his deedsCh. 104 §17

  • VirtueR25N28 +3

    RSlandered the late emperor and disparaged the ministersShu 10 §36Shu 10 §38

    NNever ceased his complaints and slanders, saying his post was an idle oneCh. 104 §17

  • AdaptabilityR20N22 +2

    RVoiced his discontent and was deposed to commoner status and exiled; assessment: brought disaster on himselfShu 10 §35Shu 10 §39Shu 10 §74

    NVoiced his discontent and was deposed to commoner status and moved to WenshanCh. 104 §17Ch. 104 §18

  • ScholarshipR45UnverifiedN38Unverified −7

    RNo direct record — estimated from his being named a fine talentShu 10 §33

    NNo direct record — estimated from his deedsCh. 104 §17

  • DiplomacyR35N33Unverified −2

    RTook Li Shao and Jiang Wan to task, only to be reported by themShu 10 §35Shu 10 §38

    NNo direct record — estimated from his deedsCh. 104 §17

  • DiscernmentR30N33Unverified +3

    RDisparaged Xiang Lang, Wen Gong, Guo Youzhi, Wang Lian and others as vulgar menShu 10 §36Shu 10 §37

    NNo direct record — estimated from his deedsCh. 104 §17

Records Romance Unverified No direct record; scored from their actions (evidence grade C)

3KDEX scoring — the Records use the main text of Chen Shou’s Records of the Three Kingdoms; the Romance uses the 120-chapter Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Click a source tag to open that passage in the reader.

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Allegiance history

  1. Shu · Records · Records vol. 40 「先主領荊州牧,闢為從事」