Li Su 李肅
| Occupation | RNGeneral · Chief Commandant of Cavalry | Faction | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Appears | RN | Biography in | |
| Born | R? Unverified | Native place | Wuyuan Commandery |
| Died | R192 Unverified | Place of death | |
| Cause of death | RExecuted NExecuted Unverified | ||
| Existence | Historical | Mentions | R2 |
Profile
Li Su was a Chief Commandant of Cavalry from the same commandery as Lü Bu. In the 3rd year of Chuping (192), when Lü Bu killed Dong Zhuo, he led the personal guards keeping the side gate and struck at Dong Zhuo. The Records give him no biography of his own; he appears twice in the account of Dong Zhuo in the Biographies of Dong, the Two Yuans and Liu in Records of Wei 6. Chen Shou's main text does not record his courtesy name. Records, Wei 6 §16Records, Wei 7 §2
After Dong Zhuo's death, on Lü Bu's orders he went to Shan County (陝縣) to put Dong Zhuo's son-in-law Niu Fu to death by imperial decree, but Niu Fu and the others fought back and defeated him; he fled to Hongnong and was put to death by Lü Bu. He does not appear in the assessment of Records of Wei 6. Records, Wei 6 §19 · 96
In the Romance he first appears in Chapter 3 as Dong Zhuo's General of the Household Rapid as Tigers, and he appears in 3 of its 120 chapters. As the title of Chapter 3, 'Sending Gold and Pearls, Li Su Wins Over Lü Bu', suggests, he wins Lü Bu over with the Red Hare and with gold and pearls, so that Lü Bu kills Ding Yuan and comes over to Dong Zhuo. In Chapter 9 he carries a false edict of abdication to Meiwu and lures Dong Zhuo out to Chang'an; afterward he is defeated by Niu Fu and beheaded by Lü Bu. Romance, Ch. 3 §37–39 · 43–45Romance, Ch. 9 §17 · 39
In the Records
In the 4th month of the 3rd year of Chuping (192), the Minister over the Masses Wang Yun, the Supervisor of the Masters of Writing Shisun Rui and Dong Zhuo's general Lü Bu plotted together to kill Dong Zhuo. At that time the Son of Heaven had just recovered from an illness, and a great assembly was held in the Weiyang Hall. Lü Bu had Li Su, Chief Commandant of Cavalry and a man of his own commandery, and others lead a dozen or so personal guards, disguise themselves in the uniforms of palace guards and keep the side gate, while Lü Bu himself carried an imperial edict in his robe. When Dong Zhuo arrived, Li Su and the others struck at him. Dong Zhuo, startled, cried out for Lü Bu, and Lü Bu, saying 'There is an edict', at last killed Dong Zhuo and exterminated his family to the third degree. Records, Wei 6 §16
The Biography of Lü Bu records that Lü Bu was a man of Jiuyuan in Wuyuan Commandery. Of this event, the Biography of Lü Bu says that Lü Bu stabbed Dong Zhuo with a blade in his own hand, and that the details are given in the account of Dong Zhuo. Li Su's name does not appear in the Biography of Lü Bu. Records, Wei 7 §2 · 5–6
Earlier, Dong Zhuo's son-in-law Niu Fu, General of the Household, had been commanding troops stationed separately at Shan County (陝縣), and had sent the Colonels Li Jue, Guo Si and Zhang Ji (張濟) in separate detachments to plunder the counties of Chenliu and Yingchuan. When Dong Zhuo died, Lü Bu sent Li Su to Shan County to put Niu Fu to death by imperial decree. Niu Fu and the others fought back against Li Su, and Li Su was defeated and fled to Hongnong, and Lü Bu put Li Su to death. Records, Wei 6 §19
Chen Shou's main text does not separately record Li Su's courtesy name, his other offices or the year of his death. The assessment of Records of Wei 6 discusses Dong Zhuo, Yuan Shu, Yuan Shao and Liu Biao, but does not mention Li Su. Records, Wei 6 §16 · 19 · 96
In the Romance
In Chapter 3 of the Romance, when Dong Zhuo, badly beaten by Ding Yuan's troops, longs to win Lü Bu, a man steps forward in front of the tent and says that, being from Lü Bu's home district, he knows Lü Bu to be brave but without strategy, one who forgets loyalty at the sight of profit, and that with his three-inch tongue he will persuade Lü Bu to come over and surrender. Dong Zhuo looks and sees that it is Li Su, General of the Household Rapid as Tigers. When Li Su proposes binding Lü Bu's heart with the famous horse called the Red Hare and with gold and pearls, Dong Zhuo, on Li Ru's advice, gladly gives up the horse and adds a thousand taels of gold, several dozen bright pearls and a jade belt. Romance, Ch. 3 §36–38
Calling himself an old friend, Li Su visits Lü Bu's camp and presents the Red Hare, and over wine he sways Lü Bu by saying, 'A good bird chooses the tree it roosts in; a worthy minister chooses the lord he serves.' After saying that none of the ministers is the equal of Dong Zhuo, he lays out the gold, pearls and jade belt and reveals that these and the Red Hare were all sent by Lord Dong, whereupon Lü Bu says he will kill Ding Yuan and lead his troops over to Dong Zhuo. The next day, when Lü Bu comes with Ding Yuan's head, Li Su takes him to Dong Zhuo. Romance, Ch. 3 §38–39 · 42–45 · 47
In Chapter 5 Dong Zhuo makes Hua Xiong Colonel of Valiant Cavalry, gives him 50,000 horse and foot, and sends him racing through the night to the pass together with Li Su, Hu Zhen and Zhao Cen. When Yuan Shu withholds grain and Sun Jian's army falls into disorder, Li Su proposes to Hua Xiong a plan in which he himself will go down from the pass by a byway and attack the rear of Sun Jian's camp while Hua Xiong strikes the front camp; that night he reaches the rear of Sun Jian's camp and sets fires that blaze up to the sky, scattering Sun Jian's troops. Romance, Ch. 5 §19 · 25–26
In Chapter 9, when the question arises of who should lure Dong Zhuo out of Meiwu, Shisun Rui recommends Li Su, Chief Commandant of Cavalry from the same commandery as Lü Bu, saying that he bitterly resents Dong Zhuo for not promoting him. When Lü Bu, recalling what happened before, urges him to become a loyal minister together with him, Li Su says that he too has long wished to be rid of this traitor, and breaks an arrow as an oath. The next day he goes to Meiwu with a dozen or so horsemen and delivers an edict, saying that the Son of Heaven intends to assemble the civil and military officials in the Weiyang Hall to discuss abdicating in favour of the Grand Preceptor, and that Minister over the Masses Wang has already had a terrace built for receiving the abdication. Dong Zhuo says that when he becomes emperor he will make Li Su Bearer of the Golden Mace. Romance, Ch. 9 §14–18
On the road to Chang'an, when a wheel of the carriage breaks, the horse snaps its reins, a fierce wind and dark fog arise, and children sing the song of the 'grass of a thousand li', each time Dong Zhuo asks, Li Su interprets it as a good omen of receiving the abdication. A Taoist with a cloth tied to a pole, the character '口' written at each end, he dismisses as a man sick in mind and has driven away. When Dong Zhuo, inside the Northern Side Gate, sees Wang Yun and the others holding treasured swords and asks in alarm what it means, Li Su does not answer but pushes the carriage straight in, and when Lü Bu stabs Dong Zhuo in the throat, Li Su swiftly cuts off his head and holds it in his hand. Romance, Ch. 9 §20–25
After Dong Zhuo's death Li Su volunteers to go and seize Li Ru, and on Wang Yun's orders he leads 50,000 troops to Meiwu together with Lü Bu and Huangfu Song to confiscate Dong Zhuo's property and household. When Li Jue and the others march on Chang'an, he goes out to fight on Lü Bu's orders and drives back Niu Fu, but at the second watch that night he is raided by Niu Fu, flees more than thirty li in defeat and loses more than half his troops. When Li Su returns, Lü Bu flies into a rage, saying, 'How dare you blunt our keen edge!', beheads him and hangs his head at the gate of the camp. Romance, Ch. 9 §27–28 · 38–39
Where the Romance differs
Who brought Lü Bu over: In Chapter 3 of the Romance, Li Su takes the Red Hare and gold and pearls to Lü Bu and persuades him to kill Ding Yuan and come over to Dong Zhuo. The Biography of Lü Bu in the Records says only that Dong Zhuo induced Lü Bu to kill Ding Yuan, and Li Su does not appear. The Red Hare appears in the Biography of Lü Bu only as Lü Bu's fine horse, with no record of who gave it to him. Romance, Ch. 3 §37–45Records, Wei 7 §2–3 · 7
Office: In Chapter 3 of the Romance Li Su appears as General of the Household Rapid as Tigers, and in Chapter 9 as Chief Commandant of Cavalry. In the Records he appears only as Chief Commandant of Cavalry. Romance, Ch. 3 §37Romance, Ch. 9 §15Records, Wei 6 §16
Guarding the pass: In Chapter 5 of the Romance, Li Su guards the pass together with Hua Xiong and attacks the rear of Sun Jian's camp. The record of Li Su in the account of Dong Zhuo in the Records has no such episode, and in the Biography of Sun Jian in the Records, Hua Xiong is beheaded by Sun Jian in the battle at Yangren. Romance, Ch. 5 §19 · 25–26Records, Wei 6 §16–19Records, Wu 1 §17
Luring Dong Zhuo out: In Chapter 9 of the Romance, Li Su is recommended as a man who resents Dong Zhuo for not promoting him, and he carries a false edict of abdication to Meiwu and lures Dong Zhuo out. In the Records, when the Son of Heaven had just recovered from an illness and a great assembly was held in the Weiyang Hall, Li Su and the personal guards, dressed in the uniforms of palace guards, kept the side gate. Nothing is said of Li Su going to fetch Dong Zhuo or of his resenting Dong Zhuo. Romance, Ch. 9 §15 · 17Records, Wei 6 §16
The killing of Dong Zhuo: In Chapter 9 of the Romance, at Wang Yun's cry more than a hundred men stab at Dong Zhuo with halberds and lances, and when Lü Bu stabs Dong Zhuo in the throat, Li Su cuts off his head. In the account of Dong Zhuo in the Records, Li Su and the others struck at Dong Zhuo, and when Dong Zhuo called for Lü Bu, Lü Bu said there was an edict and killed him. The Biography of Lü Bu records that Lü Bu stabbed him with a blade in his own hand. Romance, Ch. 9 §24–25Records, Wei 6 §16Records, Wei 7 §5
The battle with Niu Fu and his death: In Chapter 9 of the Romance, Li Su meets Niu Fu, who has joined forces with Li Jue and the others and is marching on Chang'an; he wins at first but is defeated in a night raid, and Lü Bu beheads Li Su for having blunted their edge and hangs his head at the gate of the camp. In the Records, when Dong Zhuo died, Lü Bu sent Li Su to Shan County to put Niu Fu to death by imperial decree, but Niu Fu and the others fought back, Li Su was defeated and fled to Hongnong, and Lü Bu put him to death. In the Records, by the time Li Jue and the others returned, Niu Fu had already been destroyed. Romance, Ch. 9 §38–39Records, Wei 6 §19–20
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- LEA3038+8
- STR5245−7
- INT3855+17
- POL3131±0
- CHA3538+3
- VIR4522−23
- ADP3532−3
- SCH3131±0
- DIP3874+36
- DIS3340+7
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