Wang Mou 王謀

RecordsRomance Courtesy name 元泰 Yuantai왕모원태王谋

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OccupationROfficial · Minister of Ceremonies NOfficial · Minister StewardFaction
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Wang Mou, courtesy name Yuantai, was a man of Hanjia. Under Liu Zhang he served as Administrator of Ba Commandery and as Headquarters Attendant Officer (zhizhong congshi) of the province, and when the First Sovereign pacified Yi Province he became Aide-de-camp (biejia). When the First Sovereign became King of Hanzhong he became Minister Steward; at the beginning of Jianxing he was granted the rank of Marquis Within the Passes, and later he replaced Lai Gong as Minister of Ceremonies. Records, Shu 15 §49

The Records give him no biography of his own; there is a short record of him in Yang Xi's Encomia on the Supporting Ministers of Ji Han, included in the Biographies of Deng Zhi, Zhang Yi, Zong Yu and Yang Xi in Records of Shu 15, and in the note Chen Shou added beneath it. Chen Shou said that he composed no biography because Wang Mou's deeds had not been handed down, and recorded the exchange between Jiang Wan and Zhang Xiu to show how highly he was esteemed. In the Romance his name appears only in Chapter 80, in a single chapter, as the Minister Steward among the officials who ask the King of Hanzhong to take the throne, and it is not in the chapter title. Records, Shu 15 §33 · 50–51Romance, Ch. 80 §37

In the Records

Wang Mou, courtesy name Yuantai, was a man of Hanjia. He was admirable in bearing, deportment and conduct. Under Liu Zhang he became Administrator of Ba Commandery and then returned to become Headquarters Attendant Officer of the province. When the First Sovereign pacified Yi Province and took the post of Governor of Yi Province, he made him his Aide-de-camp. Records, Shu 15 §49

When the First Sovereign became King of Hanzhong, he made Lai Gong of Lingling, a veteran scholar of Jing and Chu, Minister of Ceremonies, Huang Zhu of Nanyang Superintendent of the Imperial Household, and Wang Mou Minister Steward. After Emperor Wen of Wei assumed the imperial title in the 25th year of Jian'an (220), the Grand Tutor Xu Jing, the General Who Pacifies the Han Mi Zhu, the Military Adviser General Zhuge Liang, the Minister of Ceremonies Lai Gong, the Superintendent of the Imperial Household Huang Zhu, the Minister Steward Wang Mou and others submitted a letter urging the First Sovereign to take the imperial throne, saying that Cao Pi had usurped and murdered and destroyed the house of Han, so that men and spirits alike longed for the Liu clan. The First Sovereign took the imperial throne south of Wudan in Chengdu in the 4th month of the 26th year of Jian'an (221). Records, Shu 15 §49Records, Shu 2 §55 · 60 · 64–65

At the beginning of Jianxing, Wang Mou was granted the rank of Marquis Within the Passes, and later he replaced Lai Gong as Minister of Ceremonies. In the 2nd year of Jianxing (224), when Zhuge Liang took the post of Governor of Yi Province and invited Du Wei to be his Registrar, the note he wrote for Du Wei says that Wang Yuantai, Li Boren, Wang Wenyi and others always praised Du Wei's lofty aims, and that though they had never met him they felt as if he were an old friend. Records, Shu 15 §49Records, Shu 12 §3

In his Encomia on the Supporting Ministers of Ji Han, written in the 4th year of Yanxi (241), Yang Xi said that 'the Minister Steward cultivated himself and was circumspect,' and praised Wang Yuantai, He Yanying, Du Fuguo and Zhou Zhongzhi together. Chen Shou wrote that he composed no biographies for Lai Gong, Huang Zhu or Wang Mou because none of their deeds had been handed down. Records, Shu 15 §33 · 48–50

Later the General-in-Chief Jiang Wan asked Zhang Xiu, 'Among the elders of Hanjia there was Wang Yuantai; who succeeds him now?' Zhang Xiu replied that for a man like Yuantai there was no successor even in the whole province, let alone in his own humble commandery. Chen Shou wrote that this was how highly he was esteemed. The Records do not give the year of his death. Records, Shu 15 §50–51

In the Romance

In Chapter 80 of the Romance, when word reaches Chengdu that Cao Pi has made himself emperor and that the Han emperor has been murdered, Kongming consults with Xu Jing and Qiao Zhou and seeks to raise the King of Hanzhong to the throne, and leads the officials to petition him again and again, but the King of Hanzhong will not comply. Kongming then devises a plan and stays away on the pretext of illness, and when the King of Hanzhong comes to see him and says they should proceed once the Military Adviser has recovered, he springs up from his couch and strikes the screen once. At that the civil and military officials waiting outside all come in, prostrate themselves in obeisance and ask him to choose a day and perform the great ceremony. Romance, Ch. 80 §29–31 · 33–34 · 36–37

Among the officials who come in at this point, the Romance names the Minister Steward Wang Mou together with the Grand Tutor Xu Jing, the General Who Pacifies the Han Mi Zhu, the Marquis of Qingyi Xiang Ju, the Marquis of Yangquan Liu Bao, the Minister of Ceremonies Lai Gong, the Minister of the Household Huang Quan, the Grand Marshal Yin Chun, the Lieutenant General Zhang Yi (張裔) and others. The King of Hanzhong exclaims in alarm that it is they who have plunged him into unrighteousness, but soon an altar is built south of Wudan in Chengdu. This is the only place in the Romance where Wang Mou's name appears. Romance, Ch. 80 §37–38

Where the Romance differs

Urging the accession: In Chapter 80 of the Romance, Wang Mou is merely named among the officials who come in and prostrate themselves when Zhuge Liang strikes the screen. In the Biography of the First Sovereign in the Records, the Minister Steward Wang Mou and others, together with Xu Jing, Mi Zhu, Zhuge Liang, Lai Gong and Huang Zhu, submitted a letter that cited Cao Pi's usurpation and urged the First Sovereign to take the imperial throne. Romance, Ch. 80 §37Records, Shu 2 §60

Career: The Romance mentions Wang Mou only once, by his office of Minister Steward. In the Records he served under Liu Zhang as Administrator of Ba Commandery and Headquarters Attendant Officer, and went on to be the First Sovereign's Aide-de-camp and Minister Steward, became Marquis Within the Passes at the beginning of Jianxing and later rose to Minister of Ceremonies. Romance, Ch. 80 §37Records, Shu 15 §49

Reputation: The exchange in the Records in which Jiang Wan asks who will succeed Wang Yuantai, the elder of Hanjia, and Zhang Xiu replies that there is no successor even in the whole province, is not in the Romance. Records, Shu 15 §50–51Romance, Ch. 80 §37

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Abilities

The Records score (Chen Shou’s Records of the Three Kingdoms, main text) is the baseline. Each ability compares how the Romance redrew the same person, and the evidence from both sources explains the difference.

LEASTRINTPOLCHAVIRADPSCHDIPDIS
Records (solid) vs Romance (dashed)
  • LEA3131±0
  • STR3131±0
  • INT4240−2
  • POL5845−13
  • CHA5540−15
  • VIR6245−17
  • ADP4542−3
  • SCH4542−3
  • DIP4038−2
  • DIS3835−3
Records · Romance scores and difference (Romance − Records · left = lowered by the Romance · right = raised)

Abilities shaped by the Romance — where it differs from the Records Differences of 10 or more

VirtueR62N45Unverified −17

RRecorded as admirable in bearing, deportment and conductShu 15 §49

NNo direct record — estimated from his office of Minister StewardCh. 80 §37

CharismaR55N40Unverified −15

RJiang Wan named Wang Yuantai as the elder of HanjiaShu 15 §50

NNo direct record — estimated from his office of Minister StewardCh. 80 §37

PoliticsR58N45Unverified −13

RRose through Administrator of Ba Commandery, Headquarters Attendant Officer and Aide-de-camp to Minister Steward and Minister of CeremoniesShu 15 §49

NNo direct record — estimated from his office of Minister StewardCh. 80 §37

7 similar abilities — show evidence
  • LeadershipR31UnverifiedN31Unverified ±0

    RNo direct record — estimated from his office of Minister StewardShu 15 §49

    NNo direct record — estimated from his office of Minister StewardCh. 80 §37

  • StrengthR31UnverifiedN31Unverified ±0

    RNo direct record — estimated from his office of Minister StewardShu 15 §49

    NNo direct record — estimated from his office of Minister StewardCh. 80 §37

  • IntelligenceR42UnverifiedN40Unverified −2

    RNo direct record — estimated from his office of Minister StewardShu 15 §49

    NNo direct record — estimated from his office of Minister StewardCh. 80 §37

  • AdaptabilityR45UnverifiedN42Unverified −3

    RNo direct record — estimated from his office of Minister StewardShu 15 §49

    NNo direct record — estimated from his office of Minister StewardCh. 80 §37

  • ScholarshipR45UnverifiedN42Unverified −3

    RNo direct record — took part in the memorial urging the accession that cited prophetic textsShu 2 §60

    NNo direct record — estimated from his office of Minister StewardCh. 80 §37

  • DiplomacyR40UnverifiedN38Unverified −2

    RNo direct record — estimated from his office of Minister StewardShu 2 §60

    NNo direct record — estimated from his office of Minister StewardCh. 80 §37

  • DiscernmentR38UnverifiedN35Unverified −3

    RNo direct record — estimated from his office of Minister StewardShu 15 §49

    NNo direct record — estimated from his office of Minister StewardCh. 80 §37

Records Romance Unverified No direct record; scored from their actions (evidence grade C)

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