RRebuked the General-in-Chief Fei Yi to his face over his repeated amnestiesShu 12 §32Shu 12 §33
NNo direct record — no recordCh. 80 §38
| Occupation | RScholar · Minister of Agriculture NScholar · Libationer | Faction | Shu |
|---|---|---|---|
| Appears | RN | Biography in | Book of Shu |
| Born | Native place | Henan Commandery Luoyang County | |
| Existence | Historical | Mentions | R14 |
Meng Guang, courtesy name Xiaoyu, was a man of Luoyang in Henan and a clansman of Meng Yu, Grand Commandant of the Han. At the end of Emperor Ling's reign he became a lecture-section clerk (jiangbu li), and when Emperor Xian moved the capital to Chang'an he fled to Shu, where Liu Yan and his son treated him with the courtesy due to a guest. Widely versed in antiquity, he excelled in the old institutions of the Han house. Records, Shu 12 §30
When the First Sovereign pacified Yi Province he became a Gentleman Consultant and took charge of institutions together with Xu Ci and others, and under the Later Sovereign he rose to Minister of Agriculture. He did not shrink from blunt words—over the general amnesty of the 9th year of Yanxi (246), for instance, he rebuked the General-in-Chief Fei Yi in front of everyone—and so his rank did not advance. Later he was implicated in an affair and dismissed, and he died at over ninety. Records, Shu 12 §31 · 32–33 · 37
In his assessment Chen Shou said that Xu Ci, Meng Guang, Lai Min and Li Zhuan were widely read and had heard much, and that although they were not praised for virtuous conduct or achievement, they were all scholars of their age. In the Romance he first appears in Chapter 80 as the Gentleman Remonstrant in charge of the ceremonies for Liu Bei's accession, and he appears in 2 of its 120 chapters; his name is in no chapter title. Records, Shu 12 §102Romance, Ch. 80 §38Romance, Ch. 91 §40
Meng Guang, courtesy name Xiaoyu, was a man of Luoyang in Henan and a clansman of Meng Yu, Grand Commandant of the Han. At the end of Emperor Ling's reign he became a lecture-section clerk (jiangbu li). When Emperor Xian moved the capital to Chang'an, he at last fled into Shu, and Liu Yan and his son treated him with the courtesy due to a guest. Records, Shu 12 §30
He was broadly learned and knew antiquity, there was no book he had not read, and he devoted himself especially to the Three Histories, excelling in the old institutions of the Han house. He loved the Gongyang Commentary on the Spring and Autumn Annals and disparaged the Zuo Commentary, and he constantly argued with Lai Min over these two schools, Meng Guang always clamouring noisily. Records, Shu 12 §30
When the First Sovereign pacified Shu, learning had declined after years of turmoil, so books and records were gathered and the various schools of learning sifted. Xu Ci and Hu Qian became Erudites and, together with Meng Guang, Lai Min and others, took charge of the old texts. When the First Sovereign pacified Yi Province, Meng Guang was appointed Gentleman Consultant and took charge of institutions together with Xu Ci and others. Records, Shu 12 §27 · 31
Before the First Sovereign took the imperial throne south of Wudan in Chengdu in the 4th month of the 26th year of Jian'an (221), the memorial submitted by the Grand Tutor Xu Jing, the General Who Pacifies the Han Mi Zhu, the Military Adviser General Zhuge Liang and others said, 'We will respectfully, together with the Erudite Xu Ci and the Gentleman Consultant Meng Guang, establish the rites and ceremonies, choose an auspicious day, and present the honoured title.' Records, Shu 2 §60 · 64–65
When the Later Sovereign took the throne, Meng Guang became Prefect of Tallies and Seals, Colonel of Garrison Cavalry and Privy Treasurer of the Changle Palace, and was then transferred to Minister of Agriculture. Records, Shu 12 §31
In the autumn of the 9th year of Yanxi (246), when a general amnesty was proclaimed, Meng Guang rebuked the General-in-Chief Fei Yi in front of everyone. An amnesty, he argued, is like a paralysis of one side of the body and has no place in an enlightened age; it may be resorted to as an expedient only when decline and exhaustion have reached their limit and there is no other choice. Now that the sovereign was benevolent and wise and the officials fit their posts, what urgency was there, he demanded, that extraordinary favours should be granted again and again? He also said that pardoning the guilty at the very season when hawks and falcons begin to strike went against the season of Heaven above and against the principles of men below. Fei Yi could only turn to him in apology, ill at ease. Records, Shu 12 §32–33
Meng Guang's way of pointing out sore and itching spots was mostly of this kind, so the senior ministers in charge of the government were not pleased at heart and his rank did not advance. He always spoke bluntly and avoided nothing, and so was disliked by the people of his time. Chen Shou wrote that this was probably why the Minister of Ceremonies Tan Cheng, the Superintendent of the Imperial Household Pei Jun and others, though all junior to Meng Guang in age and service, rose to positions above him. Records, Shu 12 §33–34
When the Gentleman of the Palace Library Xi Zheng repeatedly came to consult him, Meng Guang asked him what the Crown Prince studied and read and what his temperament and tastes were. When Xi Zheng answered that the prince served his parents with reverence and respect and that in dealing with the officials his conduct sprang from benevolence and forbearance, Meng Guang said that such things were found in every household, and that what he wanted to know was how the prince's strategic judgement and resourcefulness stood. When Xi Zheng said that the way of an heir lay in carrying out his father's wishes and giving him every joy, and that whether he had resourcefulness and strategic judgement could not be settled in advance, Meng Guang understood that Xi Zheng was prudent and would not speak loosely. Records, Shu 12 §35–36
Meng Guang said that because he liked plain speaking and was always pointing out gains and faults, he was criticized and disliked by the people of his time, and that, since the realm was not yet settled, resourcefulness should come first. The heir's reading, he said, should not be like that of men such as himself, who strove to know widely in order to await questions, nor like that of Erudites who drew lots for examination questions and sat lecture tests to seek rank; he should apply himself to what was urgent. Xi Zheng deeply agreed with Meng Guang's words. Records, Shu 12 §36–37
Later Meng Guang was implicated in an affair and dismissed from office, and he died at over ninety. The Records do not give the year of his death. The Biography of Lai Min records that at that time Meng Guang, too, was careless in speech and his opinions went against the times, but he was still better than Lai Min, and that both men, as aged and respected scholars, were treated with courtesy by the world. Records, Shu 12 §37 · 41
In his assessment Chen Shou said that Xu Ci, Meng Guang, Lai Min and Li Zhuan were widely read and had heard much, and that although they were not praised for virtuous conduct or achievement, they were truly all scholars of their age. Records, Shu 12 §102
In Chapter 80 of the Romance, after Cao Pi usurps the Han, Kongming leads the officials in repeatedly urging Liu Bei, King of Hanzhong, to take the imperial throne, and finally wins his consent. Kongming at once sends the King of Hanzhong back to the palace and has the Erudite Xu Ci and the Gentleman Remonstrant Meng Guang take charge of the ceremonies, building an altar south of Wudan in Chengdu. When everything is ready, the officials receive the King of Hanzhong and ask him to ascend the altar and offer sacrifice. Romance, Ch. 80 §31 · 37–38
In Chapter 91, when Kongming submits a memorial and prepares to campaign in the north, the Grand Astrologer Qiao Zhou cites the signs in the heavens to dissuade him, but Kongming does not listen. As Kongming settles who is to govern the affairs of Shu—leaving Guo Youzhi, Dong Yun, Fei Yi and others behind as Palace Attendants to take charge of palace affairs, among other appointments—he makes Meng Guang and Lai Min Libationers. These two chapters are the only ones in the Romance in which Meng Guang's name appears. Romance, Ch. 91 §39–40
His office at the accession ceremony: In Chapter 80 of the Romance, Meng Guang, as Gentleman Remonstrant, takes charge of the ceremonies together with the Erudite Xu Ci. In the Records, the memorial submitted by Xu Jing and others said they would establish the rites together with 'the Erudite Xu Ci and the Gentleman Consultant Meng Guang', and the Biography of Meng Guang likewise records that he became a Gentleman Consultant when the First Sovereign pacified Yi Province. Romance, Ch. 80 §38Records, Shu 2 §64Records, Shu 12 §31
Libationer: In Chapter 91 of the Romance, Kongming makes Meng Guang and Lai Min Libationers as he sets out on the northern campaign. The Biography of Meng Guang in the Records has no post of Libationer; after the Later Sovereign took the throne he passed through the posts of Prefect of Tallies and Seals, Colonel of Garrison Cavalry and Privy Treasurer of the Changle Palace to become Minister of Agriculture. In the Records, the person whom Zhuge Liang requested as Army Libationer while stationed at Hanzhong was Lai Min. Romance, Ch. 91 §40Records, Shu 12 §31 · 40
Quarrels with Lai Min: In the Records, Meng Guang loved the Gongyang Commentary on the Spring and Autumn Annals and disparaged the Zuo Commentary, constantly arguing with Lai Min. In Chapter 91 of the Romance the two simply become Libationers side by side, and their quarrels do not appear. Records, Shu 12 §30Romance, Ch. 91 §40
Rebuking Fei Yi: In the Records, Meng Guang rebuked the General-in-Chief Fei Yi in front of everyone over the general amnesty of the 9th year of Yanxi (246). This episode is absent from Chapters 80 and 91, where Meng Guang appears in the Romance. Records, Shu 12 §32–33Romance, Ch. 80 §38Romance, Ch. 91 §40
Dialogue with Xi Zheng: In the Records, Meng Guang asked the Gentleman of the Palace Library Xi Zheng about the Crown Prince's strategic judgement and resourcefulness and said that, as the realm was not yet settled, resourcefulness should come first. In Chapter 91 of the Romance, Xi Zheng's name merely appears on the same list as a Secretary, and there is no dialogue between the two. Records, Shu 12 §35–37Romance, Ch. 91 §40
His end: In the Romance Meng Guang does not appear after Chapter 91, and his death is not recorded. In the Records he was implicated in an affair and dismissed, and died at over ninety. Romance, Ch. 91 §40Records, Shu 12 §37
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RRebuked the General-in-Chief Fei Yi to his face over his repeated amnestiesShu 12 §32Shu 12 §33
NNo direct record — no recordCh. 80 §38
RThere was no book he had not read, and he excelled in Han institutions. Assessment: widely readShu 12 §30Shu 12 §102
NTook charge of the ceremonies with the Erudite Xu Ci and became a LibationerCh. 80 §38Ch. 91 §40
RHis careless speech blocked his advancement, and he was dismissed from officeShu 12 §33Shu 12 §37Shu 12 §41
NNo direct record — no recordCh. 91 §40
RSaid that, as the realm was not yet settled, resourcefulness should come first for the Crown PrinceShu 12 §37
NNo direct record — no recordCh. 91 §40
RRecognized that Xi Zheng was prudent and fittingShu 12 §36
NNo direct record — no recordCh. 91 §40
RAs Gentleman Consultant he took charge of institutions, and he rose to Minister of AgricultureShu 12 §31
NAs Gentleman Remonstrant he took charge of the accession ceremoniesCh. 80 §38
RConstantly argued with Lai Min; refuted Fei Yi, but was careless in speechShu 12 §30Shu 12 §32
NNo direct record — no recordCh. 80 §38
RNo direct record — estimated as a civil officialShu 12 §31
NNo direct record — estimated as a civil officialCh. 80 §38
RNo direct record — estimated as a civil officialShu 12 §30
NNo direct record — estimated as a civil officialCh. 80 §38
RHis blunt words made him disliked by his contemporaries and blocked his advancement in rankShu 12 §33Shu 12 §34
NNo direct record — no recordCh. 91 §40
Records Romance Unverified No direct record; scored from their actions (evidence grade C)
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