Xu Ci 許慈

RecordsRomance Shu Courtesy name 仁篤 Rendu허자인독许慈

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OccupationRScholar · Grand Prolonger NScholar · EruditeFactionShu
AppearsRNBiography inBook of Shu
BornNative placeNanyang Commandery
ExistenceHistoricalMentionsR9

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Xu Ci, courtesy name Rendu, was a scholar of Shu from Nanyang Commandery. He took Liu Xi as his teacher and excelled in the learning of Zheng Xuan, and during the Jian'an era he came from Jiao Province into Shu together with Xu Jing and others. When Liu Bei pacified Shu, Xu Ci and Hu Qian became Erudites, but when the two slandered and quarreled with each other, Liu Bei, at a banquet where his officials were gathered, had entertainers imitate them in order to bring them to their senses. Records, Shu 12 §26–28

In the 26th year of Jian'an (221), before Liu Bei took the imperial throne, the memorial submitted by his ministers said that they would establish the rites and ceremonies together with the Erudite Xu Ci and the Gentleman Consultant Meng Guang. Under the Later Sovereign, Liu Shan, Xu Ci was gradually promoted until he reached the post of Grand Prolonger, and then died. Records, Shu 2 §64–65Records, Shu 12 §28

In his assessment Chen Shou said that Xu Ci, Meng Guang, Lai Min and Li Zhuan were widely read and had heard much, and that although they were not praised for virtuous conduct or achievement, they were all scholars of their age. In the Romance he appears only in Chapter 80, once in its 120 chapters, and no chapter has his name in its title. As an Erudite, he takes charge of the ceremonies for Liu Bei's accession together with the Gentleman Remonstrant Meng Guang. Records, Shu 12 §102Romance, Ch. 80 §38

In the Records

Xu Ci, courtesy name Rendu, was a man of Nanyang Commandery. He took Liu Xi as his teacher and excelled in the learning of the Zheng school (Zheng Xuan), and he studied the Book of Changes, the Book of Documents, the Three Rites, the Mao Odes and the Analects. During the Jian'an era he came from Jiao Province into Shu together with Xu Jing and others. Records, Shu 12 §26

At that time there was also in Shu Hu Qian of Wei Commandery, courtesy name Gongxing; it is not known how he came to be in Yi Province. Although Hu Qian's learning was not broad, his memory was outstandingly strong, and on the institutions and rites of the ancestral line and the five grades of mourning dress he could point things out as if on the palm of his hand or sketch them on the ground, picking out any detail with a raise of his hand. Records, Shu 12 §26

When Liu Bei pacified Shu, learning had declined and fallen into neglect after years of turmoil, so classical texts were gathered and the various schools of learning sifted. Xu Ci and Hu Qian both became Erudites and, together with Meng Guang, Lai Min and others, took charge of the old texts. The Biography of Meng Guang likewise records that when Liu Bei pacified Yi Province, Meng Guang became a Gentleman Consultant and took charge of institutions together with Xu Ci and others. Records, Shu 12 §27 · 31

As everything was then being newly established, questions and disputes arose at every turn, and Xu Ci and Hu Qian attacked and disparaged each other by turns, slandering and quarreling in anger so that it showed in their voices and faces. They would not lend each other the books one had and the other lacked, and at times they even resorted to beatings to intimidate each other. Chen Shou wrote that their self-conceit and jealousy of each other went this far. Records, Shu 12 §27

Liu Bei, pained to see them like this, had entertainers at a grand assembly of all his officials dress up as the two men and imitate their quarrels. When the wine was flowing and the music playing, this was staged as an amusement: at first the pair argued with words and reasoning, and in the end they forced each other into submission with swords and staves, and in this way he moved the two to shame. Records, Shu 12 §28

In the 26th year of Jian'an (221), the Grand Tutor Xu Jing, the General Who Pacifies the Han Mi Zhu, the Military Adviser General Zhuge Liang and others, in a memorial asking Liu Bei to ascend the imperial throne, said, 'We will respectfully, together with the Erudite Xu Ci and the Gentleman Consultant Meng Guang, establish the rites and ceremonies, choose an auspicious day, and present the honoured title.' In the 4th month of that year Liu Bei took the imperial throne south of Wudan in Chengdu. Records, Shu 2 §60 · 64–65

Hu Qian died first, and Xu Ci, under the Later Sovereign, Liu Shan, was gradually promoted until he reached the post of Grand Prolonger, and then died. His son Xu Xun inherited his learning and in turn became an Erudite. Chen Shou's text does not record the years of Xu Ci's birth or death. Records, Shu 12 §28

In his assessment at the end of Records of Shu 12, Chen Shou said that Xu Ci, Meng Guang, Lai Min and Li Zhuan were widely read and had heard much, and that Yin Mo was versed in the Zuo Commentary; although they were not praised for virtuous conduct or achievement, they were truly all scholars of their age. Records, Shu 12 §102

In the Romance

In Chapter 80 of the Romance, when Cao Pi usurps the Han, Kongming (Zhuge Liang) consults the Grand Tutor Xu Jing and the Grandee of Splendid Happiness Qiao Zhou, intending to raise Liu Bei, King of Hanzhong, to emperor. When the King of Hanzhong repeatedly refuses, saying he cannot imitate the deeds of a traitor, Kongming feigns illness and stays away, and when the King of Hanzhong comes to visit him, he draws from him the promise that it will be done once Kongming has recovered. At that, the civil and military officials waiting outside all come in, prostrate themselves and ask him to choose a day to perform the grand ceremony. Romance, Ch. 80 §30–31 · 33–37

Kongming at once sends the King of Hanzhong back to the palace and has the Erudite Xu Ci and the Gentleman Remonstrant Meng Guang take charge of the ceremonies, building an altar south of Wudan in Chengdu. When everything is ready, the officials set out the imperial carriage in order, receive the King of Hanzhong and ask him to ascend the altar and offer sacrifice, and on the altar Qiao Zhou reads aloud the sacrificial address dated the dingsi day, the 12th of the 4th month of the 26th year of Jian'an. In the Romance, Xu Ci is named only in this passage. Romance, Ch. 80 §38–39

Where the Romance differs

His learning and how he came to Shu: In Chapter 80 of the Romance, Xu Ci is merely named as the Erudite in charge of the ceremonies, and his origins and learning are not described. In the Records, Xu Ci was a man of Nanyang Commandery who took Liu Xi as his teacher and excelled in the learning of the Zheng school, and during the Jian'an era he came from Jiao Province into Shu together with Xu Jing and others. Romance, Ch. 80 §38Records, Shu 12 §26

How he came to handle the ceremonies: In Chapter 80 of the Romance, after Kongming feigns illness and wins the consent of the King of Hanzhong, he has the Erudite Xu Ci and the Gentleman Remonstrant Meng Guang take charge of the ceremonies. In the Biography of the First Sovereign in the Records, Xu Jing, Mi Zhu, Zhuge Liang and others, in the memorial they submitted asking that he ascend the imperial throne, said that they would establish the rites together with the Erudite Xu Ci and the Gentleman Consultant Meng Guang. Romance, Ch. 80 §34–38Records, Shu 2 §60 · 64

The quarrel with Hu Qian: Hu Qian does not appear in the Romance, nor does Xu Ci quarrel as an Erudite. In the Records, Xu Ci and Hu Qian, as Erudites, disparaged each other, refused to lend each other books and at times even resorted to beatings, and Liu Bei, at a banquet where his officials were gathered, had entertainers imitate the two men's quarrel to bring them to their senses. Romance, Ch. 80 §38Records, Shu 12 §27–28

His later office: The Romance does not portray Xu Ci after Chapter 80. In the Records, Xu Ci was gradually promoted under the Later Sovereign until he reached the post of Grand Prolonger, and then died, and his son Xu Xun carried on his learning and in turn became an Erudite. Romance, Ch. 80 §38Records, Shu 12 §28

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Abilities

The Records score (Chen Shou’s Records of the Three Kingdoms, main text) is the baseline. Each ability compares how the Romance redrew the same person, and the evidence from both sources explains the difference.

LEASTRINTPOLCHAVIRADPSCHDIPDIS
Records (solid) vs Romance (dashed)
  • LEA3131±0
  • STR3131±0
  • INT4542−3
  • POL5248−4
  • CHA3240+8
  • VIR2545+20
  • ADP4040±0
  • SCH7458−16
  • DIP3038+8
  • DIS3838±0
Records · Romance scores and difference (Romance − Records · left = lowered by the Romance · right = raised)

Abilities shaped by the Romance — where it differs from the Records Differences of 10 or more

VirtueR25N45Unverified +20

RDisparaged Hu Qian, came to blows with him and would not even lend him booksShu 12 §27

NNo direct recordCh. 80 §38

ScholarshipR74N58 −16

RExcelled in Zheng Xuan's learning, including the Changes, the Documents and the Three Rites; Chen Shou's assessment: a scholar of his ageShu 12 §26Shu 12 §102

NAs an Erudite, took charge of the rites of the grand ceremonyCh. 80 §38

8 similar abilities — show evidence
  • LeadershipR31UnverifiedN31Unverified ±0

    RNo direct record — estimated from his being a scholarShu 12 §26

    NNo direct recordCh. 80 §38

  • StrengthR31UnverifiedN31Unverified ±0

    RNo direct record — estimated from his being a scholarShu 12 §26

    NNo direct recordCh. 80 §38

  • IntelligenceR45UnverifiedN42Unverified −3

    RNo direct record — estimated from his career as a scholarShu 12 §26

    NNo direct recordCh. 80 §38

  • PoliticsR52N48 −4

    RAs an Erudite he took charge of the old texts and established the rites for the honoured titleShu 12 §27Shu 2 §64

    NAs an Erudite, took charge of the accession ceremoniesCh. 80 §38

  • CharismaR32N40Unverified +8

    RRidiculed when entertainers imitated his quarrels with Hu QianShu 12 §27Shu 12 §28

    NNo direct recordCh. 80 §38

  • AdaptabilityR40UnverifiedN40Unverified ±0

    RNo direct record — rose as far as Grand ProlongerShu 12 §28

    NNo direct recordCh. 80 §38

  • DiplomacyR30N38Unverified +8

    RSlandered and quarreled angrily in deliberationsShu 12 §27

    NNo direct recordCh. 80 §38

  • DiscernmentR38UnverifiedN38Unverified ±0

    RNo direct record — his son carried on his learning and became an EruditeShu 12 §28

    NNo direct recordCh. 80 §38

Records Romance Unverified No direct record; scored from their actions (evidence grade C)

3KDEX scoring — the Records use the main text of Chen Shou’s Records of the Three Kingdoms; the Romance uses the 120-chapter Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Click a source tag to open that passage in the reader.

Romance chapters (1)

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Allegiance history

  1. Shu · Records · Records vol. 42 「慈、潛並為學士」