Lady Xu (Sun Quan) 徐夫人

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OccupationRNConsort · LadyFactionWu
AppearsRNBiography inBook of Wu
BornNative placeWu Commandery Fuchun County
Cause of deathRIllness Unverified
ExistenceHistoricalMentionsR5
Notes정사 참고: 이름(諱) 미기록 — 정사 표제(시호·배우자 호칭)로 표기 (Records)

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Lady Xu, consort of Sun Quan, Lord of Wu, was a native of Fuchun in Wu Commandery. Her grandfather Xu Zhen married Sun Jian's sister and fathered her father Xu Kun, so to Sun Quan she was the granddaughter of his paternal aunt. She was first married to Lu Shang of the same commandery; after Lu Shang died she became a consort of Sun Quan, who was then at Wu as General Who Attacks Barbarians, and raised Sun Quan's son Sun Deng as his mother. Records, Wu 5 §11 · 13 · 9

Later she was deposed for jealousy and stayed at Wu. After Sun Quan became King of Wu and took the imperial title, the ministers asked that she be made empress, but Sun Quan's heart was set on Lady Bu and he never consented; Lady Xu later died of illness. Records, Wu 5 §13 · 16

She has a biography in the Biographies of Consorts, Records of Wu 5, which does not record her personal name. In his assessment in the Biographies of Consorts, Chen Shou said that because Sun Quan did not distinguish between the sons of principal wives and those of concubines, the women's quarters and the court fell into disorder. In the Romance she is named once, in Chapter 108, as the mother who bore the Crown Prince Sun Deng, and she appears in 1 of its 120 chapters; no chapter has her name in its title. Records, Wu 5 §10–13 · 42Romance, Ch. 108 §3

In the Records

Lady Xu, consort of Sun Quan, Lord of Wu, was a native of Fuchun in Wu Commandery. Her grandfather Xu Zhen was on close terms with Sun Quan's father Sun Jian, and Sun Jian gave his sister to Xu Zhen in marriage; she bore Xu Kun. Xu Kun served in the province and commandery when young, but when the world fell into disorder at the end of the Han he left his post, followed Sun Jian on campaign and won merit, and was appointed Lieutenant General. Records, Wu 5 §11

After Sun Jian died, Xu Kun followed Sun Ce in attacking Fan Neng, Yu Mi and others at Hengjiang and in attacking Zhang Ying at Danglikou. When there were too few boats and the army halted to seek more, Xu Kun's mother, who was then with the army, said that it would be disadvantageous if the provincial authorities sent a large naval force against them, and told him to cut reeds and make rafts to help the boats ferry the troops across. When Xu Kun reported this, Sun Ce immediately carried it out; the whole host crossed the river, defeated Zhang Ying, and attacked Ze Rong and Liu Yao and put them to flight. Records, Wu 5 §11–12

Sun Ce memorialized the throne to have Xu Kun concurrently serve as Administrator of Danyang, but just then Wu Jing abandoned Guangling and came east, so Wu Jing became Administrator of Danyang again. Xu Kun, as General of the Household Supervising the Army, led troops and followed Sun Ce in defeating Li Shu, Administrator of Lujiang; he was enfeoffed as Marquis of Guangde and transferred to General Who Pacifies the Caitiffs. Later he joined the campaign against Huang Zu and died after being struck by a stray arrow. Records, Wu 5 §12

Xu Kun fathered the Lady. She was first married to Lu Shang of the same commandery; when Lu Shang died, Sun Quan, who was then at Wu as General Who Attacks Barbarians, took her as his consort and had her raise his son Sun Deng as a mother. The biography of Lady Xie records that Lady Xie, whom Sun Quan's mother Lady Wu had taken for him, enjoyed his favour, but that when Sun Quan later took Lady Xu, the granddaughter of his paternal aunt, and wished to place Lady Xie beneath her, Lady Xie refused and so lost her standing. Records, Wu 5 §13 · 9

Later, when Sun Quan moved his residence, he deposed the Lady for jealousy and left her at Wu. More than ten years later, when Sun Quan became King of Wu and then took the imperial title, Sun Deng became Crown Prince, and the ministers asked that the Lady be made empress. But since Sun Quan's heart was set on Lady Bu, he never consented. The biography of Lady Bu records that Sun Quan wished to make Lady Bu empress, but since the ministers' opinion favoured Lady Xu, he hesitated for more than ten years. Records, Wu 5 §13 · 16

According to the Biography of Sun Deng, Sun Deng's birth mother was a concubine of low rank, and Lady Xu had shown him the kindness of raising him like a mother when he was young. After Lady Xu was deposed for jealousy and went to live at Wu, Lady Bu was the most favoured; when Lady Bu gave him anything, Sun Deng did not dare refuse and merely bowed and accepted it, but when Lady Xu's messengers came, he always bathed before putting on the clothes she had sent. When he was about to be appointed Crown Prince, Sun Deng declined, saying that to establish a crown prince one should first establish an empress; when Sun Quan asked, 'Where is your mother?' he answered, 'At Wu,' and Sun Quan fell silent. Records, Wu 14 §7

The Lady later died of illness. The Records do not give the year or the place. Her elder brother Xu Jiao inherited their father Xu Kun's marquisate, subdued the Shanyue and was appointed Lieutenant General, but he died before the Lady and had no sons. Her younger brother Xu Zuo succeeded to the fief, and he too, through merit in battle, rose to Commander of Wuhu and General Who Pacifies Wei. Records, Wu 5 §13

In his assessment in the Biographies of Consorts, Chen Shou said that Duke Huan of Qi and Sun Quan both had the clear sight to recognize men of worth and the ambition of outstanding men, but that because they did not distinguish between the sons of principal wives and those of concubines, the women's quarters and the court fell into disorder and calamity flowed down to their descendants. Lady Xu is not named separately in the assessment. Records, Wu 5 §42

In the Romance

Chapter 108 of the Romance turns to the affairs of Wu after the death of Sima Yi and records that Sun Quan, Lord of Wu, had earlier had a Crown Prince, Sun Deng, a son borne by Lady Xu, who died in the 4th year of Chiwu. Sun Quan therefore made his second son Sun He Crown Prince; Sun He was a son borne by Lady Wang of Langye. In the Romance, Lady Xu is named only in this one passage. Romance, Ch. 108 §3

Where the Romance differs

Sun Deng's mother: In Chapter 108 of the Romance, the Crown Prince Sun Deng is a son borne by Lady Xu. In the Biography of Sun Deng in the Records, Sun Deng's birth mother was a concubine of low rank, and Lady Xu was the one who raised him like a mother when he was young. The biography of Lady Xu also records that Sun Quan took her as his consort and had her raise his son Sun Deng as a mother. Romance, Ch. 108 §3Records, Wu 14 §7Records, Wu 5 §13

Deposition and the question of empress: Chapter 108 of the Romance records Lady Xu only as Sun Deng's mother; her deposition and the debate over making her empress do not appear. In the Records, Lady Xu was deposed for jealousy and stayed at Wu, and after Sun Quan became emperor the ministers asked that she be made empress, but Sun Quan's heart was set on Lady Bu and he did not consent. Romance, Ch. 108 §3Records, Wu 5 §13 · 16

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Abilities

The Records score (Chen Shou’s Records of the Three Kingdoms, main text) is the baseline. Each ability compares how the Romance redrew the same person, and the evidence from both sources explains the difference.

LEASTRINTPOLCHAVIRADPSCHDIPDIS
Records (solid) vs Romance (dashed)
  • LEA3131±0
  • STR3131±0
  • INT3838±0
  • POL3535±0
  • CHA5040−10
  • VIR4545±0
  • ADP3838±0
  • SCH3535±0
  • DIP3535±0
  • DIS3535±0
Records · Romance scores and difference (Romance − Records · left = lowered by the Romance · right = raised)

Abilities shaped by the Romance — where it differs from the Records Differences of 10 or more

CharismaR50N40Unverified −10

RThe ministers asked that she be made empress, and Sun Deng remained devoted to her to the endWu 5 §13Wu 14 §7

NNo direct recordCh. 108 §3

9 similar abilities — show evidence

Records Romance Unverified No direct record; scored from their actions (evidence grade C)

3KDEX scoring — the Records use the main text of Chen Shou’s Records of the Three Kingdoms; the Romance uses the 120-chapter Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Click a source tag to open that passage in the reader.

Romance chapters (1)

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Allegiance history

  1. Wu · Records · Records vol. 50 「聘以為妃,使母養子登」