Liu Ba 劉巴

RecordsRomance Shu 유파刘巴

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OccupationRNGeneral · General Who Conquers the SouthFactionShu
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BornNative place零陵郡
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Liu Ba was a Shu general whose name appears only as General of the Front and General Who Conquers the South in Chapter 91 of the Romance, in the assignment of generals and officials that Zhuge Liang made as he set out to attack Wei. The Romance does not portray any task he carried out or what he did afterward. Romance, Ch. 91 §41–42

He appears in only 1 of the 120 chapters of the Romance, Chapter 91, and no chapter has his name in its title. He does not appear in Chen Shou's main text and is recorded only in Pei Songzhi's commentary. The Biography of Zhuge Liang in Chen Shou's main text records only that in the 5th year of Jianxing (227), when Zhuge Liang was about to lead the armies north to station them in Hanzhong, he submitted a memorial, and that he finally set out and camped at Mianyang; it does not list the generals and officials who went with him. The Liu Ba of the same name who has a biography in Chen Shou's main text had the courtesy name Zichu; he succeeded Fa Zheng as Prefect of the Masters of Writing and died in the 2nd year of Zhangwu (222). Romance, Ch. 91 §42Records, Shu 5 §24 · 31Records, Shu 9 §8 · 10–11

In the Romance

In Chapter 91 of the Romance, Zhuge Liang, having pacified the south and returned to the capital, submits a memorial saying that he will attack the north. The Later Sovereign (Liu Shan) says he fears the Father-Chancellor will wear out his body and mind, and the Grand Astrologer Qiao Zhou tries to stop him, saying that the flourishing vapour of the north is at its height, but Zhuge Liang does not listen. He leaves Guo Youzhi, Dong Yun, Fei Yi and others to take charge of affairs within the palace, and has more than a hundred civil and military officials, inside and outside the court, jointly manage the affairs of Shu. Romance, Ch. 91 §39–40

Having received the edict, Zhuge Liang returns to his headquarters, summons the generals to hear their orders, and assigns the posts of the generals and officials one by one, beginning with Wei Yan as Commander of the Vanguard. In this assignment the Acting Chief Clerk is Yang Yi, General Who Pacifies the Army; Liu Ba is listed next, as General of the Front and General Who Conquers the South; and the Front Protector of the Army is Xu Yun, Lieutenant General and Marquis of Hancheng Village. Romance, Ch. 91 §41–42

The Romance records that all these officials followed Zhuge Liang, Grand Commander Who Pacifies the North, Chancellor, Marquis of Wuxiang and Governor of Yi Province, and that the bingyin day in the 3rd month of spring of the 5th year of Jianxing (227) was chosen for setting out to attack Wei. In the Romance Liu Ba's name appears only in this assignment, and there is no scene in which he speaks or fights. Romance, Ch. 91 §42–43

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Abilities

There is no record in the main text of Chen Shou’s Records, so only the Romance score is given.

LEASTRINTPOLCHAVIRADPSCHDIPDIS
Romance
  • LEA48
  • STR45
  • INT40
  • POL35
  • CHA40
  • VIR45
  • ADP40
  • SCH33
  • DIP35
  • DIS35
Each ability out of 100

Evidence by ability

  • LeadershipN48Unverified

    NNo direct record — estimated from his posts of General of the Front and General Who Conquers the South on the northern campaignCh. 91 §42

  • StrengthN45Unverified

    NNo direct record — estimated from his posts of General of the Front and General Who Conquers the South on the northern campaignCh. 91 §42

  • IntelligenceN40Unverified

    NNo direct record — estimated from his posts of General of the Front and General Who Conquers the South on the northern campaignCh. 91 §42

  • PoliticsN35Unverified

    NNo direct record — estimated from his posts of General of the Front and General Who Conquers the South on the northern campaignCh. 91 §42

  • CharismaN40Unverified

    NNo direct record — estimated from his posts of General of the Front and General Who Conquers the South on the northern campaignCh. 91 §42

  • VirtueN45Unverified

    NNo direct record — estimated from his posts of General of the Front and General Who Conquers the South on the northern campaignCh. 91 §42

  • AdaptabilityN40Unverified

    NNo direct record — estimated from his posts of General of the Front and General Who Conquers the South on the northern campaignCh. 91 §42

  • ScholarshipN33Unverified

    NNo direct record — estimated from his posts of General of the Front and General Who Conquers the South on the northern campaignCh. 91 §42

  • DiplomacyN35Unverified

    NNo direct record — estimated from his posts of General of the Front and General Who Conquers the South on the northern campaignCh. 91 §42

  • DiscernmentN35Unverified

    NNo direct record — estimated from his posts of General of the Front and General Who Conquers the South on the northern campaignCh. 91 §42

Romance Unverified No direct record; scored from their actions (evidence grade C)

3KDEX scoring — the Records use the main text of Chen Shou’s Records of the Three Kingdoms; the Romance uses the 120-chapter Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Click a source tag to open that passage in the reader.

Romance chapters (1)

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Allegiance history

  1. Shu · Records · 「行前監軍征南將軍臣劉巴」 · Romance ch. 91 s42 「前將軍——徵南將軍劉巴」