Sun Xiu 孫秀

RecordsRomance 손수孙秀

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OccupationRGeneral · General of the Front NGeneral · General of Agile CavalryFaction
AppearsRNBiography in
BornNative placeWu Commandery Fuchun County Unverified
ExistenceHistoricalMentionsR6

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Sun Xiu was a member of the Wu royal clan: the grandson of Sun Kuang, son of Sun Jian, and the son of Sun Tai. In Wu he became General of the Front and Area Commander of Xiakou, but because he was a close relative of the ruling house holding troops away from the capital, Sun Hao was uneasy about him. In the 2nd year of Jianheng (270), when He Ding, sent by Sun Hao, came hunting as far as Xiakou, he took fright and fled to Jin with his wife, children and several hundred of his personal troops, and Jin made him General of Agile Cavalry with honors equal to the Three Excellencies and enfeoffed him as Duke of Kuaiji. Records, Wu 1 §22Records, Wu 6 §37–38

The Records has no separate biography of him; his story is appended to the end of Sun Kuang's account in the Biographies of the Royal Clan, Records of Wu 6. The assessment in volume 6 discusses the various Suns together without naming him. In the Romance he appears only in Chapter 120, as General of Agile Cavalry of Jin, weeping toward the south when Wu falls; his name is not in any chapter title. Records, Wu 6 §37–38 · 52Romance, Ch. 120 §58

In the Records

Sun Jian had four sons: Sun Ce, Sun Quan, Sun Yi and Sun Kuang. Sun Xiu's grandfather Sun Kuang, courtesy name Jizuo, was Sun Yi's younger brother; he was recommended as Filial and Incorrupt and as Abundant Talent, but died at a little over twenty before he could be appointed to office. Sun Kuang's son and Sun Xiu's father, Sun Tai, a grandson of the Cao family on his mother's side, became Colonel of the Changshui, and in the 3rd year of Jiahe (234) he followed Sun Quan in besieging Xincheng and was killed by a stray arrow. Records, Wu 1 §22Records, Wu 6 §37

Sun Xiu became General of the Front and Area Commander of Xiakou. Chen Shou wrote that because Sun Xiu was a close relative of the ruling house holding troops away from the capital, Sun Hao was uneasy about him. In the 2nd year of Jianheng (270), Sun Hao had He Ding lead five thousand men to Xiakou to hunt. Records, Wu 6 §37

Before this, people had all been saying that Sun Xiu would be done away with, and when He Ding came hunting so far afield, Sun Xiu at last took fright and fled to Jin by night with his wife, children and several hundred of his personal troops. The Biographies of the Three Successor Rulers records this as He Ding leading five thousand soldiers up to Xiakou to hunt in the autumn, the 9th month, of the 2nd year of Jianheng, and the Area Commander Sun Xiu fleeing to Jin. Jin made Sun Xiu General of Agile Cavalry with honors equal to the Three Excellencies and enfeoffed him as Duke of Kuaiji. Records, Wu 6 §38Records, Wu 3 §62

Chen Shou's main text does not record Sun Xiu's courtesy name, what happened to him after he entered Jin, or the year of his death. The assessment in volume 6 says only that the various Suns either helped lay the first foundations of the state or guarded the frontiers and proved equal to their duties, and were therefore recorded in detail; it does not single out Sun Xiu. Records, Wu 6 §37–38 · 52

In the Romance

In Chapter 120 of the Romance, when news arrives that Wu has been pacified, the sovereign and ministers of the Jin court all offer congratulations and raise cups wishing long life, and the Jin emperor, holding his cup, sheds tears, saying that this is the achievement of Grand Tutor Yang and it is a pity he did not see it himself. Romance, Ch. 120 §57–58

At this point Sun Xiu, General of Agile Cavalry, withdraws from court and weeps aloud facing south. He laments that long ago the General Who Attacks Rebels, in the prime of youth and as a mere colonel, founded the family's heritage, but now Sun Hao has thrown away the whole of Jiangnan, crying, 'O distant blue Heaven, what kind of man is this!' This scene is the only place Sun Xiu appears in the Romance. Romance, Ch. 120 §58

Where the Romance differs

Lineage and his career in Wu: In the Records, Sun Xiu, a grandson of Sun Kuang, became General of the Front and Area Commander of Xiakou, and while under Sun Hao's suspicion, when He Ding came hunting to Xiakou in the 2nd year of Jianheng (270), he took fright and fled to Jin with his wife, children and several hundred personal troops. Chapter 120 of the Romance only calls him General of Agile Cavalry of Jin and does not record his lineage or his flight to Jin. Records, Wu 6 §37–38Romance, Ch. 120 §58

Weeping on the day Wu fell: In Chapter 120 of the Romance, when Sun Hao surrenders, Sun Xiu withdraws from court and weeps aloud facing south. Chen Shou's main text states only that Jin made him General of Agile Cavalry with honors equal to the Three Excellencies and enfeoffed him as Duke of Kuaiji, and records nothing of Sun Xiu after the fall of Wu. Romance, Ch. 120 §58Records, Wu 6 §38

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Abilities

The Records score (Chen Shou’s Records of the Three Kingdoms, main text) is the baseline. Each ability compares how the Romance redrew the same person, and the evidence from both sources explains the difference.

LEASTRINTPOLCHAVIRADPSCHDIPDIS
Records (solid) vs Romance (dashed)
  • LEA4640−6
  • STR4035−5
  • INT4040±0
  • POL4040±0
  • CHA4240−2
  • VIR3555+20
  • ADP6240−22
  • SCH3640+4
  • DIP4040±0
  • DIS3640+4
Records · Romance scores and difference (Romance − Records · left = lowered by the Romance · right = raised)

Abilities shaped by the Romance — where it differs from the Records Differences of 10 or more

AdaptabilityR62N40Unverified −22

ROn rumors that he would be harmed, fled to Jin by night and became General of Agile Cavalry and Duke of KuaijiWu 6 §37Wu 6 §38

NNo direct record — estimated from his post as General of Agile Cavalry of JinCh. 120 §58

VirtueR35N55 +20

RFearing Sun Hao's suspicion, fled to Jin with his wife, children and personal troopsWu 6 §38Wu 3 §62

NWhen Wu fell, wept aloud facing south, longing for the heritage founded by Sun CeCh. 120 §58

8 similar abilities — show evidence
  • LeadershipR46UnverifiedN40Unverified −6

    RNo direct record — estimated from his posts as General of the Front and Area Commander of XiakouWu 6 §37

    NNo direct record — estimated from his post as General of Agile Cavalry of JinCh. 120 §58

  • StrengthR40UnverifiedN35Unverified −5

    RNo direct record — estimated from his posts as General of the Front and Area Commander of XiakouWu 6 §37

    NNo direct record — estimated from his post as General of Agile Cavalry of JinCh. 120 §58

  • IntelligenceR40UnverifiedN40Unverified ±0

    RNo direct record — estimated from his posts as General of the Front and Area Commander of XiakouWu 6 §37

    NNo direct record — estimated from his post as General of Agile Cavalry of JinCh. 120 §58

  • PoliticsR40UnverifiedN40Unverified ±0

    RNo direct record — estimated from his posts as General of the Front and Area Commander of XiakouWu 6 §37

    NNo direct record — estimated from his post as General of Agile Cavalry of JinCh. 120 §58

  • CharismaR42UnverifiedN40Unverified −2

    RNo direct record — estimated from his position as a close relative of the ruling house holding troopsWu 6 §37

    NNo direct record — estimated from his post as General of Agile Cavalry of JinCh. 120 §58

  • ScholarshipR36UnverifiedN40Unverified +4

    RNo direct record — estimated from his posts as General of the Front and Area Commander of XiakouWu 6 §37

    NNo direct record — estimated from his words lamenting the fall of WuCh. 120 §58

  • DiplomacyR40UnverifiedN40Unverified ±0

    RNo direct record — estimated from his posts as General of the Front and Area Commander of XiakouWu 6 §37

    NNo direct record — estimated from his post as General of Agile Cavalry of JinCh. 120 §58

  • DiscernmentR36UnverifiedN40Unverified +4

    RNo direct record — estimated from his posts as General of the Front and Area Commander of XiakouWu 6 §37

    NNo direct record — estimated from his post as General of Agile Cavalry of JinCh. 120 §58

Records Romance Unverified No direct record; scored from their actions (evidence grade C)

3KDEX scoring — the Records use the main text of Chen Shou’s Records of the Three Kingdoms; the Romance uses the 120-chapter Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Click a source tag to open that passage in the reader.

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