RWas on good terms with Cao Zhi and at odds with Xiahou Shang, incurring Emperor Wen's deep hatredWei 10 §45
NNo direct record — only the record of announcing his father Xun Yu's deathCh. 61 §36
| Occupation | RGeneral · General of the Household Rapid as Tigers | Faction | Wei |
|---|---|---|---|
| Appears | RN | Biography in | Book of Wei |
| Born | Native place | Yingchuan Commandery Yingyin County Unverified | |
| Existence | Historical | Mentions | R7 |
Xun Yun was the eldest son of Xun Yu. Cao Cao gave him his daughter in marriage, and she was later known as Princess Anyang. After Xun Yu's death he inherited the marquisate, and he rose to the office of General of the Household Rapid as Tigers. Records, Wei 10 §40 · 45
At the time when Cao Pi and Cao Zhi, Marquis of Pingyuan, were both being discussed as heir, Xun Yun, after Xun Yu's death, was on good terms with Cao Zhi and on bad terms with Xiahou Shang, and so incurred Cao Pi's deep hatred. Xun Yun died young, but his sons Xun Han and Xun Yi (荀霬) were Cao Pi's nephews through his sister and so were still treated with favour. Records, Wei 10 §45
In the Records he is briefly included after the biography of his father Xun Yu in Records of Wei 10, the Biographies of Xun Yu, Xun You and Jia Xu, and Chen Shou's assessment does not mention him. In the Romance he appears only in Chapter 61, and his name is not in any chapter title. The Romance portrays him sending a letter announcing the death to Cao Cao after Xun Yu, seeing the empty box sent by Cao Cao, took poison and died. Records, Wei 10 §44–45 · 90Romance, Ch. 61 §34–36
Cao Cao gave his daughter in marriage to Xun Yu's eldest son Xun Yun, and she was later known as Princess Anyang. Chen Shou did not record the year of this marriage. Records, Wei 10 §40
In the 17th year of Jian'an (212), when Cao Cao was about to campaign against Sun Quan, he memorialized the throne to have Xun Yu reward the troops at Qiao and then kept him there, as Palace Attendant and Grand Master of Splendid Happiness bearing the Staff of Authority, to take part in the military affairs of the Chancellor. When Cao Cao's army reached Ruxu, Xun Yu stayed behind at Shouchun because of illness and died in distress at the age of fifty, and was given the posthumous name Marquis Jing. His son Xun Yun inherited the marquisate and rose to the office of General of the Household Rapid as Tigers. Records, Wei 10 §42–43 · 45
Earlier, when Cao Pi and Cao Zhi, Marquis of Pingyuan, were both being discussed as heir, Cao Pi had bent the rules of propriety to show deference to Xun Yu. After Xun Yu died, however, Xun Yun was on good terms with Cao Zhi and on bad terms with Xiahou Shang, and so Cao Pi deeply hated Xun Yun. Records, Wei 10 §45
Xun Yun died young, but his sons Xun Han and Xun Yi (荀霬) were Cao Pi's nephews through his sister and so were still treated with favour. Xun Yun's younger brother Xun Yu (荀俁) was Palace Assistant Imperial Clerk, and Xun Yu's younger brother Xun Shen was Attendant Gentleman to the General-in-Chief; both were well known but died young. Xun Shen's younger brother Xun Yi (荀顗) became Minister of Works in the Xianxi era. Chen Shou did not record the year of Xun Yun's death. Records, Wei 10 §45
His son Xun Han succeeded him, became Cavalier Attendant-in-Ordinary and was advanced to Marquis of Guangyang Village; he died at thirty and was succeeded by his son Xun Jun. His other son Xun Yi rose to Central Commander of the Army, and after his death he was given the posthumous name Marquis Zhen and posthumously made General of Agile Cavalry. Xun Yi's wife was the sister of Sima Shi and Sima Zhao, so both of them were on close terms with him, and when the five ranks of nobility were newly established in the Xianxi era, his son Xun Kai was re-enfeoffed as Viscount of Nandun because Xun Yi had rendered distinguished service under the previous reigns. Records, Wei 10 §46–49
In his assessment at the end of the volume, Chen Shou described Xun Yu as pure and outstanding, broadly versed and refined, with the bearing of one who assists a king, but he did not assess Xun Yun separately. Records, Wei 10 §90
In Chapter 61 of the Romance, the Chief Clerk Dong Zhao tells Cao Cao that he ought to receive the rank of Duke of Wei and be granted the Nine Bestowments. When the Palace Attendant Xun Yu objects that a gentleman cherishes others through virtue and that this must not be done, Cao Cao harbours a deep grudge against him. Romance, Ch. 61 §30 · 33–34
In the 10th month, in the winter of the 17th year of Jian'an, when Cao Cao marches south to Jiangnan and orders Xun Yu to go with him, Xun Yu stays at Shouchun on the pretext of illness. When he opens the food box Cao Cao has sent, there is nothing in it, and Xun Yu, understanding its meaning, takes poison and dies. His son Xun Yun sends a letter announcing the death to Cao Cao, and Cao Cao, filled with regret, orders a lavish burial and gives him the posthumous name Marquis Jing. In the Romance, Xun Yun appears only in this scene. Romance, Ch. 61 §34–36
The announcement of death: In Chapter 61 of the Romance, after Xun Yu takes poison and dies on seeing the empty box sent by Cao Cao, Xun Yun sends a letter announcing the death to Cao Cao, and Cao Cao is filled with regret. In the Biography of Xun Yu in the Records, Xun Yu stayed behind at Shouchun because of illness and died in distress, and there is no mention of Xun Yun announcing the death or of Cao Cao feeling regret. Romance, Ch. 61 §34–36Records, Wei 10 §43–45
Marriage: In the Records, Cao Cao gave his daughter in marriage to Xun Yun, and she was later known as Princess Anyang. This marriage does not appear in the Romance. Records, Wei 10 §40Romance, Ch. 61 §36
Office: The Romance does not record Xun Yun's office. In the Records, Xun Yun inherited his father's marquisate and rose to the office of General of the Household Rapid as Tigers. Romance, Ch. 61 §36Records, Wei 10 §45
Relations with Cao Pi, and his death: In the Romance, Xun Yun does not appear after the announcement of death in Chapter 61. In the Records, after Xun Yu's death he was on good terms with Cao Zhi and on bad terms with Xiahou Shang, incurred Cao Pi's deep hatred, and died young. Romance, Ch. 61 §36Records, Wei 10 §45
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RWas on good terms with Cao Zhi and at odds with Xiahou Shang, incurring Emperor Wen's deep hatredWei 10 §45
NNo direct record — only the record of announcing his father Xun Yu's deathCh. 61 §36
RNo direct record — estimated from his being General of the Household Rapid as Tigers who inherited Xun Yu's marquisateWei 10 §45
NNo direct record — only the record of announcing his father Xun Yu's deathCh. 61 §36
RNo direct record — estimated from his being General of the Household Rapid as Tigers who inherited Xun Yu's marquisateWei 10 §45
NNo direct record — only the record of announcing his father Xun Yu's deathCh. 61 §36
RNo direct record — estimated from his being General of the Household Rapid as Tigers who inherited Xun Yu's marquisateWei 10 §45
NNo direct record — only the record of announcing his father Xun Yu's deathCh. 61 §36
RNo direct record — estimated from his being General of the Household Rapid as Tigers who inherited Xun Yu's marquisateWei 10 §45
NNo direct record — only the record of announcing his father Xun Yu's deathCh. 61 §36
RNo direct record — estimated from his being General of the Household Rapid as Tigers who inherited Xun Yu's marquisateWei 10 §45
NNo direct record — only the record of announcing his father Xun Yu's deathCh. 61 §36
RNo direct record — estimated from his being General of the Household Rapid as Tigers who inherited Xun Yu's marquisateWei 10 §45
NNo direct record — only the record of announcing his father Xun Yu's deathCh. 61 §36
RNo direct record — estimated from his being General of the Household Rapid as Tigers who inherited Xun Yu's marquisateWei 10 §45
NNo direct record — only the record of announcing his father Xun Yu's deathCh. 61 §36
RRecorded as being on bad terms with Xiahou ShangWei 10 §45
NNo direct record — only the record of announcing his father Xun Yu's deathCh. 61 §36
RNo direct record — estimated from his being General of the Household Rapid as Tigers who inherited Xun Yu's marquisateWei 10 §45
NNo direct record — only the record of announcing his father Xun Yu's deathCh. 61 §36
Records Romance Unverified No direct record; scored from their actions (evidence grade C)
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| Parents | Xun Yu Records |
|---|---|
| Siblings | Xun Yi(荀顗) Records, Xun Can Records |
| Children | Xun Han Records, Xun Yi(荀霬) Records |
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